# The Dems will sweep into power in both the House and the Senate as well as the Presidency

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**Created:** [May 10, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482 "2016-05-10T13:09:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/61 "2016-06-14T21:19:14Z")

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I would agree but then I remember Bush’s re-election. Nope, not gonna happen.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/62 "2016-06-14T21:37:17Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> If the economy tanks their will only be democrats to blame.

Dunno about that. That depends on how much power the Pubs have in Congress and how obstinately obstructive they decide to be.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/63 "2016-06-14T22:32:56Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> You do realize though with great power comes great responsibility.
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> If the economy tanks their will only be democrats to blame. You better hope the whole country doesnt turn into Detroit (which has had all dem mayors in 50 years).

Yes, let’s hope that the country doesn’t turn into Buffalo. And Cleveland. And St. Louis. Toledo. Bridgeport. Rochester. Wheeling. Philadelphia. Providence. Albany. Scranton. Pittsburgh. Canton. Syracuse. Flint. Gary. Cincinnati. Milwaukee. Binghamton. New Haven. Wilkes-Berre. Fort Wayne. Youngstown.

The entire Rust Belt is because of Democratic mayors.

:smack::eek:😕:dubious::(:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/64 "2016-06-14T22:40:52Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> You do realize though with great power comes great responsibility…

That would be nice.

Or if even the\* obligation \*to be responsible came hand in hand. Alas, no. There _are_ some people who want power so that they can do good, like some people want money so they can be more generous.

We’ve never had too many of them, never even _enough_ of them. They are not abundant. Plus, they tend not to be as dedicated and committed as the greedy and the ambitious.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/65 "2016-06-15T18:43:06Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> There! I said it. I see a looming Republican catastrophe.
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> Also, I predict many of us, including me. will be seriously disappointed with how little the Democrats will change course their rightward trends.

If that happens, you’re right, and for one simple reason. Hillary Clinton is smarter and has the advantage of hindsight.

Every time the Democrats take everything, they lose it huge in only two years. It’s happened now four times in a row. It happened to Obama, it happened to Clinton, it happened to Carter, it happened to LBJ. Actually, LBJ and Carter didn’t lose control of the HOuse or Senate, but they did suffer big losses. But you get the point. Democrats win it all, then lose 40-50 seats just two years later.

Hillary Clinton is going to want to make damn sure she doesn’t become victim#5.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/66 "2016-06-15T18:52:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> If that happens, you’re right, and for one simple reason. Hillary Clinton is smarter and has the advantage of hindsight.
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> Every time the Democrats take everything, they lose it huge in only two years. It’s happened now four times in a row. It happened to Obama, it happened to Clinton, it happened to Carter, it happened to LBJ. Actually, LBJ and Carter didn’t lose control of the HOuse or Senate, but they did suffer big losses. But you get the point. Democrats win it all, then lose 40-50 seats just two years later.
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> Hillary Clinton is going to want to make damn sure she doesn’t become victim#5.

You know, there’s more to winning elections than trying to win the next one. LBJ gave us the Civil Rights Act and Medicare, Obama gave us the Affordable Care Act. Bill Clinton gave us peace and prosperity. What has any Republican president ever given us? Tax cuts for the rich? Needless war?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/67 "2016-06-15T19:15:33Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Clinton has [grown her lead over Trump](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/hillary-clinton-trump-gains-white-male-moderate-voters) in the latest polling.
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> I’m guessing this is reflecting Trump’s “biased judge” controversy but not any bounce he may (God help us) have picked up after Orlando. It’ll be interesting to see what next week’s polls have to say.

The poll you linked to was an NBC news poll, June 6 - 12, and had Clinton at a 7 point lead.

[The latest Bloomberg poll](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016),(the first major poll since the Orlando shooting), June 10 - 13 had Clinton with **a 12 point lead**

Wait until Sanders starts campaigning in earnest for Clinton, and urges all of his supporters to do whatever it takes to stop Trump.

Wait until Trump says another asinine thing. Just yesterday, he accused US troops of stealing money in Iraq. Just outright accused veterans of being thieves.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/68 "2016-06-15T19:18:08Z")

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Let’s keep track of who Trump has insulted so far this campaign. Probably more to come:

Women  
Blacks  
Hispanics  
Muslims  
Handicapped  
Veterans  
Media  
Scientists  
Judiciary

But he has certainly locked up the Angry Uneducated White Male vote. They’re solid.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/69 "2016-06-15T19:26:36Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> You know, there’s more to winning elections than trying to win the next one. LBJ gave us the Civil Rights Act and Medicare, Obama gave us the Affordable Care Act. Bill Clinton gave us peace and prosperity. What has any Republican president ever given us? Tax cuts for the rich? Needless war?

Well, Nixon gave us the Plumbers, and both he AND Reagan gave us reasonably impeachable offenses as opposed to Oval Office blow jobs (which they both might have benefitted from. :p)

To be fair, Eisenhower did pretty well, and Bush 1 wasn’t terrible.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/70 "2016-06-15T19:38:35Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Well, Nixon gave us the Plumbers.

So you’re saying he was a blue-collar job creator.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/71 "2016-06-15T21:51:39Z")

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**Euphonious Polemic** , he’s insulted the angry white uneducated males, too.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/72 "2016-06-15T22:25:52Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> **Euphonious Polemic** , he’s insulted the angry white uneducated males, too.

They’re just too angry and uneducated to REALIZE he’s insulting them…

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/73 "2016-06-15T22:33:54Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Let’s keep track of who Trump has insulted so far this campaign. Probably more to come:
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> Women  
> Blacks  
> Hispanics  
> Muslims  
> Handicapped  
> Veterans  
> Media  
> Scientists  
> Judiciary
> 
> But he has certainly locked up the Angry Uneducated White Male vote. They’re solid.

You may have to add “Military” on that list, as Trump _actually attempts_ to back-pedal his remarks yesterday. Hope Hicks, his spokeswoman and a person who no longer has a Twitter account, spent a good part of last night “clarifying” that Trump was speaking about Iraqi soldiers stealing US money, not American soldiers… despite the fact that Iraqi soldiers were never tasked with payouts.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/74 "2016-06-15T22:51:51Z")

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It certainly is true that a lot of money sent to Iraq for post-invasion reconstruction went mysteriously missing, but I doubt the guys who took it wear uniforms.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/75 "2016-06-16T01:01:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Let’s keep track of who Trump has insulted so far this campaign. Probably more to come:
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> Women  
> Blacks  
> Hispanics  
> Muslims  
> Handicapped  
> Veterans  
> Media  
> Scientists  
> Judiciary
> 
> But he has certainly locked up the Angry Uneducated White Male vote. They’re solid.

Republican leadership - he basically just told them to shut up today.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/76 "2016-06-16T02:27:27Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I’m counting on a low Republican turn out that will allow for a Democratic victory.

[New Marquette poll: Clinton leads Trump as _Republican voter enthusiasm dampens_](http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/new-marquette-poll-clinton-leads-trump-as-republican-voter-enthusiasm/article_7096dbde-8df9-5a9a-8089-a987f9272855.html) (emphasis added)

> [@](#):
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> With less than five months to go before the November presidential election, a new poll out Wednesday found Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump in Wisconsin, and Trump’s pending nomination could be depressing Republican voter enthusiasm…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/77 "2016-06-16T02:30:30Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> The press has not even begun to unload on Trump.

It’ll get worse as he keeps getting into a snit and pulling press credentials, driving the media to guerilla journalism tactics like getting candid recordings of his rallies (with the loudest knuckle-draggers getting the most airplay).

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/78 "2016-06-16T02:38:10Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> You may have to add “Military” on that list, as Trump _actually attempts_ to back-pedal his remarks yesterday. Hope Hicks, his spokeswoman and a person who no longer has a Twitter account, spent a good part of last night “clarifying” that Trump was speaking about Iraqi soldiers stealing US money, not American soldiers… despite the fact that Iraqi soldiers were never tasked with payouts.

Of course not, for the same reason neither leprechauns, ghosts, nor djinn were tasked with payouts. When the bundles of payout cash were being distributed, _there was no such thing as an Iraqi soldier_ – the geniuses in charge of the occupation had disbanded the Iraqi army, no doubt hoping to reap the well known social-stability benefits of throwing hundreds of thousands of young men out of work. :smack: :smack:

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/79 "2016-06-16T02:46:09Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’m sure they won’t get any votes in December.

Gosh, what are you saying?

Now, remember, all you Trump supporters, be sure to go vote this December! Make America Great Again!

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dems-will-sweep-into-power-in-both-the-house-and-the-senate-as-well-as-the-presidency/754482/80 "2016-06-16T03:55:05Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> You know, there’s more to winning elections than trying to win the next one. LBJ gave us the Civil Rights Act and Medicare, Obama gave us the Affordable Care Act. Bill Clinton gave us peace and prosperity. What has any Republican president ever given us? Tax cuts for the rich? Needless war?

That’s a great argument that I’ve made many times myself. Now what do you think Clinton and embattled Senate Democrats(there will be about 10 of them in 2018) are going to prioritize?

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