# The DeSantis-Haley Debate (January 10, 2024)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 11, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932 "2024-01-11T02:11:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/21 "2024-01-11T07:37:45Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> DeSantis then said that it didn’t affect anyone in Iowa and why should they care. That’s pretty damn cold.

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a more succinct demonstration of Republican philosophy in a real world setting.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/22 "2024-01-11T10:16:10Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> DeSantis just fired the first shots of the War on Easter!

I thought Florida was all about the pastels.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/23 "2024-01-11T20:47:19Z")

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Thanks for this @Spoons

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/24 "2024-01-11T21:21:46Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Haley: Not four more years of chaos, as Trump would bring. Trump and Biden are neck and neck, but I beat Biden according to polls. I will make America strong.

One poll.

> **[FactChecking the Haley-DeSantis GOP Debate - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2024/01/factchecking-the-haley-desantis-gop-debate/)**
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> The two presidential contenders had the stage to themselves just days before the Iowa caucuses.

That link shows that the lies were a flyin.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/25 "2024-01-11T23:04:31Z")

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I was sure that there was a lot of BS flying around last night. Glad that it was all fact-checked.

Thanks for the link. I like how detailed it is; the authors really did a good job on it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/26 "2024-01-12T01:03:54Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Thanks for the link. I like how detailed it is; the authors really did a good job on it.

Politifact has a similar one, if you prefer them.

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**Author:** ![betonbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@betonbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betonbill)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/27 "2024-01-13T16:39:14Z")

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From the debate: If you believe in climate change, DO NOT vote for a Republican. Things mentioned by both were “drill, baby, drill,” get rid of the EPA, cancel all electric vehicle progress, China is still polluting, so why should we do anything? And the list goes on and on.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/28 "2024-01-13T17:10:18Z")

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> [@betonbill](#):
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> “drill, baby, drill,”

Why do they want to bring back memories of Palin? Is she so loved by MAGAheads?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/29 "2024-01-14T22:15:37Z")

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That’s not what they mean by that.  
They’re certain that we could relieve ourselves of requiring the use of foreign oil, if we produced more at home. It’s a shortsighted INDEPENDENCE thing.  
It is another expression of “Can you believe how expensive gas is???”

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/30 "2024-01-15T07:37:05Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> No Man Is An Island

[Hijack]

I was thinking of Donne a couple of minutes ago and re-read his poem “The Flea” to consider how the current book banning plan would affect classical literature. And yes, cancel culture would ban one of my favourite poems.

[/Hijack]

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/31 "2024-01-15T23:28:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> > [@Babale](#):
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> > DeSantis just fired the first shots of the War on Easter!
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> I thought Florida was all about the pastels.

It is.

But DeSantis is about anything _but_ Florida.

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(I do look forward to his returning and inevitably trying to play like he Did It All for Florida. Not even Republicans will believe him.)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/32 "2024-01-16T04:17:03Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> (I do look forward to his returning and inevitably trying to play like he Did It All for Florida. Not even Republicans will believe him.)

I think the suckers will buy it.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/33 "2024-01-16T04:48:10Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Break, 2032 hours MST.

Both go to their corners. Haley gets smelling salts and a bucket to spit in. DeSantis’s cut man is working on his left eye.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/34 "2024-01-17T23:29:02Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I think the suckers will buy it.

Sadly this is likely to be true. And there are way too many suckers among the Florida GOP electorate.

Even so, DeSantis has lost some of the sheen of inevitability that he enjoyed once he announced his candidacy. A lot of his defenders must know they can’t, anymore, present those “God created a fighter” memes without being laughed out of the room.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/35 "2024-01-18T19:01:22Z")

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This angers me:

> **[DeSantis makes baseless claim at NH town hall: “Every booster you take,...](https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-makes-baseless-claim-nh-164908948.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANXeabNv1ED0KRyD00ubi6jUl6Mpdj_MjkpjlGhysBPuTetOTCLQ2U_xHC7T9yiaVfuFs9HERN_DCvgDtkxwI_SLyo-kFMXrVHaxR4K-yegW8wtm4g2Brbf-qwM38ppS2LuJWOrfgxnZI8kDFYeblLH3E22uXKtAD0JdQ2El31Sf)**
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> They lied to us about the COVID shots. Remember, they said if you take a COVID shot, you will not get COVID? How true was that? Not at all. Now, every booster you take, you're more likely to get COVID as a result of it. And they would never talk...

Ron DeSantis:

“Now, every booster you take, you’re MORE likely to get Covid because of it.”

Posted this in a BBQ thread, too.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/36 "2024-01-18T19:12:48Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Posted this in a BBQ thread, too.

Where? I feel the need to express myself fully on this.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/37 "2024-01-18T19:30:19Z")

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> [@The Republican Party is the Party of Evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2461):
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> This angers me: [[Gov. Ron DeSantis baselessly claims, “Every booster you take, you’re more likely to get COVID”] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW6cHe5wTy4) “Now, every booster you take, you’re MORE likely to get Covid because of it.” This guy is a psycho, in my humble opinion, (not by the clinical definition). Probably a worse-case-scenario over Trump. Talk about a heartless individual. Daddy hit him too much and didn’t show him enough love, so he has to take it out on the rest of humanity, is what I’m guessing. I wish I h…

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-desantis-haley-debate-january-10-2024/995932/38 "2024-01-18T19:47:00Z")

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Thanks. Off to let my inner screech monkey out.

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