# The difference between Sarah Palin and a Pit Bull is... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515 "2008-09-07T18:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![A\_shameful\_cracka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@A\_shameful\_cracka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_shameful_cracka)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/61 "2008-09-09T00:50:43Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > That’s incredibly Messianic! Or batshit crazy. One or the other. 😃 I know. I usually have either very mundane dreams (like the one where you get showered and dressed for work, then wake up), or totally meaningless crazy dreams, but as soon as I woke up I was surprised by the obvious symbolism and meaning in that dream. I hardly ever dream about anyone outside of my family, so it’s weird that I dreamed about two public figures in one weekend. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/62 "2008-09-09T00:57:07Z")
She is number one in the recent fuckability of pols. But she makes people too easily. She is horribly incompetent. She brings nothing except pandering to the right wing republican nutjobs. This woman absolutely should not be in a position to become president. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/63 "2008-09-09T01:39:00Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > She is number one in the recent fuckability of pols. But she makes people too easily. She is horribly incompetent. She brings nothing except pandering to the right wing republican nutjobs. This woman absolutely should not be in a position to become president. You are SO over the top here. How dare you present your personal opinion as if it were The Truth, handed down from Sinai??? I prefer Yulio Tymoshenko to Sarah Palin, by far. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/64 "2008-09-09T01:41:42Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Not. Mattressability is inherently subjective. ---
**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/65 "2008-09-09T01:51:43Z")
Among other things, a pitbull does not need someone to explain exactly what the job is when it gets into the ring. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/66 "2008-09-09T02:16:07Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I am kind of disappointed at the reaction of the folks on this board (and on the left in general) to the choice of Palin. I found myself doing the same kind of things the weekend after the announcement (I was on vacation Labor Day weekend)…calling her things like Caribou Barbie, etc. I caught myself after about a day and a half of that…what the hell was I doing? Instead of finding out actual policy/philosophy negatives about her, I was calling her out using sexist, downright misogynistic phrasing and thinking. I was disappointed with myself, and the more I read on here and on Daily Kos, I was disappointed with my fellow liberals and liberal/centrists. There is MORE than enough to ding her on based on politics, period. We didn’t need to and don’t need to be lowering ourselves to criticisms based on her hairstyle or glasses or age or family situation or clothing. > > We’re undercutting our own arguments here. The fact that Obama is taking the high ground means nothing if his most vocal supporters keep chewing away at the supports for that platform. There is no disconnect in the popular view between Obama and us. What we do either redounds to his benefit or contributes to the tarnishing of his image. This is, actually the only Palin thread I’ve read and opened in the last four or five days, I think. And I tried to respond to it without getting into any sexist comparisons between Governor Palin and a freaking dog. (Yes, I know that trope is taken directly from her convention speech. I’m thinking it was at least in part a tar trap…reach for it and get stuck with it) Jeebus man, are you for real? She painted herself as such and invited the comparison. It’s a joke thread. Sheesh… Some of you guys are pretty funny, thanks for the laughs! ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/67 "2008-09-09T02:46:15Z")
[America needs more than a bulldog with lipstick bumper sticker…](http://www.zazzle.com/america_needs_more_than_a_bulldog_with_lipstick_bumpersticker-128950165705576438) … we need a vice president that knows foreign affairs and other important things. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/68 "2008-09-09T02:55:44Z")
I don’t think there is any sexist intent in this thread. I think everyone is resorting to humor for the same reason I do. I’m scared to death that if McCain wins, she’ll become POTUS. Oh, a pit bull would be fine on a long leash. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/69 "2008-09-09T03:35:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I had a dream about Obama. > > He was in an arena, and he had to fight a bull, same as you. > > But he was buried up to his neck in the sand. The bull came rushing at him, but Obama managed to dig away with his chin into the sand, and got his head down low enough to dodge the horns. Then, as the bull passed over him, he lunged up and bit the bull in the scrotum. > > And the master of the games shook his finger at Obama from the sidelines. > > “Now, now - fight fair!” > > Regards, > Shodan It seems to me you share a quality with McCain - the ability to either confuse your facts or outright lie. The biting in the scrotum has been on the McCain/Palin side. The _issues_ campaigning, which for most intelligent voters is the one of interest, has been on Obama’s side, but since McCain wasn’t cutting it on the issues, he went for the personalities and smears (which by me is biting in the scrotum). But thanks for returning to your regularly scheduled persona. While I vastly prefer the **Shodan** I occasional see and love, I have trouble dealing with the cognitive dissonance. Even liberals find a black and white world _easier_ to deal with. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/70 "2008-09-09T15:23:40Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Pitbulls may shit outdoors but at least they don’t rape the environment. > > I happen to like pitbulls and as someone else said, I’d trust one over her anyday. > There needs to be a Pitbull Antidefamation League. [The Pit Bull Appreciation Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10173324) ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/71 "2008-09-09T15:28:53Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > It seems to me you share a quality with McCain - the ability to either confuse your facts or outright lie. The biting in the scrotum has been on the McCain/Palin side. The _issues_ campaigning, which for most intelligent voters is the one of interest, has been on Obama’s side, but since McCain wasn’t cutting it on the issues, he went for the personalities and smears (which by me is biting in the scrotum). > > But thanks for returning to your regularly scheduled persona. While I vastly prefer the **Shodan** I occasional see and love, I have trouble dealing with the cognitive dissonance. Even liberals find a black and white world _easier_ to deal with. 😉 Seems to me that the parable as told is \*sympathetic \*to Obama, or at least gamely mocking the Obama supporter’s point of view. And nicely odd, and funny. We ought to engage in this sort of fun, we’re all mostly the same after all. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/72 "2008-09-09T15:31:31Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > It seems to me you share a quality with McCain - the ability to either confuse your facts or outright lie. The biting in the scrotum has been on the McCain/Palin side. The _issues_ campaigning, which for most intelligent voters is the one of interest, has been on Obama’s side, but since McCain wasn’t cutting it on the issues, he went for the personalities and smears (which by me is biting in the scrotum). > > But thanks for returning to your regularly scheduled persona. While I vastly prefer the **Shodan** I occasional see and love, I have trouble dealing with the cognitive dissonance. Even liberals find a black and white world _easier_ to deal with. 😉 Heh, I thought the story was supposed to be _sympathetic_ to Obama. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/73 "2008-09-09T16:40:12Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > It seems to me you share a quality with McCain - the ability to either confuse your facts or outright lie. The biting in the scrotum has been on the McCain/Palin side. (snip) This is one thing I do not love about being a liberal: sometimes we can suck allllll the funny out of a room. But I loves ya, Oy! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/74 "2008-09-09T19:44:27Z")
Mostly, it was supposed to be funny, and make fun of the sort of “attack him no matter what you do” way. _:sigh:_ How many McCain supporters does it take to change a light bulb? Only one. McCain would do it, but he can’t raise his arms above his shoulders. 'Cause he was tortured! By the Viet Cong! That shows COURAGE! That shows LEADERSHIP! That shows the kind of BACKBONE that America NEEDS! How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? THERE’S NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT THE ENERGY CRISIS IN AMERICA! WE NEED ALTERNATE FUEL RESEARCH, AND OBAMA IS WORKING ON IT! RACIST! HATEMONGER! Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/75 "2008-09-09T19:47:13Z")
OK, now you’re back to the man I love and whose children I’d wish to bear if I could stand kids and could have them and all that shite. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/76 "2008-09-09T20:02:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? One. You are the light-bulb changer you’ve been waiting for. > [@Shodan](#): > > How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? None, because everybody who could do it is already under the bus. > [@Shodan](#): > > How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? Don’t worry, the media will take care of that. Have an iced tea, take a load off. > [@Shodan](#): > > How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? Zero, because as soon as you get to the word “change”, they all have mindblowing orgasms and are unfit for physical labor. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/77 "2008-09-09T21:06:02Z")
> [@stolichnaya](#): > > [QUOTE=Shodan] > > How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? One. You are the light-bulb changer you’ve been waiting for. [/QUOTE] Actually, not a bad metaphor for what Obama wants people to realize and do. Take responsibility and change your own lightbulb. If you really need it, we’ll try to help you out with a stepladder. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/78 "2008-09-09T21:36:08Z")
I see you completely missed the point of my Obama light bulb joke, too. It’s a joke thread. See if you can roll with it. You know - joke, ha ha, funny, where we lighten up for ten seconds running. See also **Little Plastic Ninja** , Latest Post of. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/79 "2008-09-10T02:48:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I see you completely missed the point of my Obama light bulb joke, too. > > It’s a joke thread. See if you can roll with it. You know - joke, ha ha, funny, where we lighten up for ten seconds running. See also **Little Plastic Ninja** , Latest Post of. > > Regards, > Shodan As you can see, assuming you retain the ability to read, is that I have in fact appreciated the humor that was funny, especially including your lightbulb jokes - or did you think I want to have children with just any random man I happen to encounter? 😃 Nonetheless, it struck me that stolichnaya’s first lightbulb joke really was a good metaphor for Obama’s campaign message, as well as being a funny joke. What, something can’t be funny and meaningful at the same time? :dubious: ETA: And I’m sorry **Ninja** finds me a downer because I have this little thing about, you know, truth, even in jokes when it comes to campaigns (nothing against **Ninja** ). So I’ll unsubscribe from the thread now, and **Shodan** can be free to lie all he wants. Won’t that be fun? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515/80 "2008-09-10T03:51:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > How many Obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? > > THERE’S NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT THE ENERGY CRISIS IN AMERICA! WE NEED ALTERNATE FUEL RESEARCH, AND OBAMA IS WORKING ON IT! RACIST! HATEMONGER! > > Regards, > Shodan You stole that joke from the feminists, you Nazi fuck. ETA: It’s okay **Oy!** , we can argue with foam-spittled lips and call people on lies in other rooms. In here it’s strictly pudding-flinging. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-difference-between-sarah-palin-and-a-pit-bull-is/462515.md?page=5)