# The Diogenes Teleplay

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 13, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241 "2007-11-13T14:55:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/141 "2007-11-21T03:54:45Z")

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[QUOTE=cricetus]  
We should have known because they never diagnosed it.

Anyway, I think the lupus meme is overplayed on the Internet. It’s “autoimmune” that they diagnose every single episode. I don’t even know if that’s a real thing.  
[/QUOTE]

Lupus _is_ an autoimmune disease.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/142 "2007-11-21T03:55:57Z")

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News to the writers, apparently. The doctors bring up both as two different possibilities.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/143 "2007-11-21T04:18:43Z")

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[QUOTE=cricetus]  
News to the writers, apparently. The doctors bring up both as two different possibilities.  
[/QUOTE]

Let me guess, the treatment for one will cause insta-death if the patient has the other. _The clock is ticking! Make a decision!_

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/144 "2007-11-25T17:43:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
I gave myself two weeks. That would make thursday my “deadline,” but sometime over the weekend might be more realistic.  
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So how’s it going?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/145 "2007-11-28T20:38:31Z")

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I’m guessing you lost the bet?

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**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/146 "2007-11-28T20:58:54Z")

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I’ve read this thread from the beginning but haven’t posted. I say that only so it won’t appear I’m thread-shitting. That said, the original deadline of Thursday has come and gone, and now the weekend is behind us as well. **Diogenes** may enjoy the intellectual exercise of writing short fiction in script form, but I can’t see how he’ll prove anything.  
-Lil

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/147 "2007-11-28T21:38:06Z")

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Maybe he died of lupus.

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/148 "2007-11-28T21:53:37Z")

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[QUOTE=KGS]  
Maybe he died of lupus.  
[/QUOTE]  
It’s Not Lupus!

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/149 "2007-11-28T22:16:44Z")

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[QUOTE=percypercy]  
I’ve read this thread from the beginning but haven’t posted. I say that only so it won’t appear I’m thread-shitting. That said, the original deadline of Thursday has come and gone, and now the weekend is behind us as well. **Diogenes** may enjoy the intellectual exercise of writing short fiction in script form, but I can’t see how he’ll prove anything.  
-Lil  
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Well, if anything he’s proved that he can’t do what regular screen writers are called to do on pretty much a daily basis.

And saying that he’s not going to put himself under the same constraints because he’s not getting paid for it is bullshit. Either you can do it under the same conditions or you can’t, no excuses.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/150 "2007-11-28T22:51:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Eutychus]  
Well, if anything he’s proved that he can’t do what regular screen writers are called to do on pretty much a daily basis.

And saying that he’s not going to put himself under the same constraints because he’s not getting paid for it is bullshit. Either you can do it under the same conditions or you can’t, no excuses.  
[/QUOTE]  
And how the fuck can he do it under the same conditions? Do most television writers work a full time job and write scripts on the side? Actually, given their general quality, I’d say that must be the case.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/151 "2007-11-29T01:42:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
And how the fuck can he do it under the same conditions? Do most television writers work a full time job and write scripts on the side? Actually, given their general quality, I’d say that must be the case.  
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So you’re saying _you_ can do better?

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/152 "2007-11-29T02:15:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
And how the fuck can he do it under the same conditions? Do most television writers work a full time job and write scripts on the side? Actually, given their general quality, I’d say that must be the case.  
[/QUOTE]  
Unless they’re offering to pay him the minimum that they are currently on strike demanding, I’m firmly on the side of let \*\*Dio \*\* take his sweet, sweet time.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/153 "2007-11-29T03:08:49Z")

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It’s almost done. I slacked off a lot during the holiday and then I got sick. I’m just finishing the third act. Researching this was a pain in the ass. I shouldn’t have picked a medical show. I think I can have the link up sometime friday or maybe tomorrow night.

Yeah, it’s taking longer than I thought. I lack discipline. The writing itself isn’t difficult. I’m just lazy and easily distracted.

Why is there a cat at the top of the page?

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**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/154 "2007-11-29T04:01:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
It’s almost done. I slacked off a lot during the holiday and then I got sick. I’m just finishing the third act. Researching this was a pain in the ass. I shouldn’t have picked a medical show. I think I can have the link up sometime friday or maybe tomorrow night.

Yeah, it’s taking longer than I thought. I lack discipline. The writing itself isn’t difficult. I’m just lazy and easily distracted.

[QUOTE]

Thank goodness professional writers don’t face holidays or illness. They also don’t have to stay focused and busy when they don’t feel like it, or do pain-in-the-ass research.

Ahh, the sweet, sweet life of being a TV writer. It’s so much easier than being an Internet grump.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/155 "2007-11-29T04:25:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Clark K]  
Thank goodness professional writers don’t face holidays or illness. They also don’t have to stay focused and busy when they don’t feel like it, or do pain-in-the-ass research.

Ahh, the sweet, sweet life of being a TV writer. It’s so much easier than being an Internet grump.  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, wiseass, but did you know that each writer for _House_ has [3 medical consultants](http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/24/213107.php) working with him on the script? No, didn’t think so. Considering Dio had to do the job of 4 people in this case (not to mention that there is a team of writers who consult on the characterization and overall story arc), I think you should cut him a little more of a fucking break. But then, it’s much easier to be a snarky Internet bitch than it is to research and write something, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/156 "2007-11-29T04:26:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
But then, it’s much easier to be a snarky Internet bitch than it is to research and write something, isn’t it?  
[/QUOTE]

I think that’s precisely what Diogenes is discovering.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/157 "2007-11-29T04:28:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Clark K]

[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
It’s almost done. I slacked off a lot during the holiday and then I got sick. I’m just finishing the third act. Researching this was a pain in the ass. I shouldn’t have picked a medical show. I think I can have the link up sometime friday or maybe tomorrow night.

Yeah, it’s taking longer than I thought. I lack discipline. The writing itself isn’t difficult. I’m just lazy and easily distracted.

> [@](#):
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> Thank goodness professional writers don’t face holidays or illness. They also don’t have to stay focused and busy when they don’t feel like it, or do pain-in-the-ass research.
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> Ahh, the sweet, sweet life of being a TV writer. It’s so much easier than being an Internet grump.

They also get paid. This isn’t my job and I don’t have the luxury of having a team of technical consultants appointed to me.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/158 "2007-11-29T04:29:47Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
I think that’s precisely what Diogenes is discovering.  
[/QUOTE]

No I’m not. Nothing so far has been difficult for me. Just tedious.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/159 "2007-11-29T04:31:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
No I’m not. Nothing so far has been difficult for me. Just tedious.  
[/QUOTE]

Like I said, it’s precisely what you are discovering.

Writing is tedious and requires discipline. It’s easier being a snarky internet bitch. We both know that (as I avoid finishing a couple of writing projects).

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-diogenes-teleplay/426241/160 "2007-11-29T05:21:35Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
I think that’s precisely what Diogenes is discovering.  
[/QUOTE]

Hah. That’s one of the best slams I’ve seen on this board in a long while. I salute you, madam.

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