# The Disappearing Journalist and the Submarine **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 17, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883 "2017-08-17T17:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/21 "2017-08-19T16:03:47Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The first thing we need to do is plot the locations of all nearby island volcanoes. I was thinking of islands with guano loading facilities. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/22 "2017-08-19T16:49:54Z")
:smack: Wrong movie. But once I thought of Ursula who I first encountered emerging from that water at an impressionable age (me not her), the rest of my post was on autopilot. Mmmm Ursula. Who wiki says has aged like most other Hollywood sex kittens: badly with ever worse plastic surgery. Yecch! Scary!! ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/23 "2017-08-20T01:05:41Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I was thinking of islands with guano loading facilities. My ears are burning. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/24 "2017-08-21T13:05:02Z")
The submariner has said that the journalist died in an “[accident](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40999566)” aboard his submarine. So, of course, he then “buried” her at sea in Køge Bay, which lies immediately south of Copenhagen. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/25 "2017-08-21T14:07:24Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Is Danish law like U.S. law, whereby you cannot convict someone of a murder if you cannot even prove that the victim is dead? This article includes a list of convictions (including some in the US) of murders for which no body was found [Murder conviction without a body - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_conviction_without_a_body) A recent case is this one [Hans Reiser - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser#Recovery_of_Nina.27s_body.2C_and_sentencing) (note, the body was found after conviction). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/26 "2017-08-21T16:44:12Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > So, of course, he then “buried” her at sea in Køge Bay, which lies immediately south of Copenhagen. :dubious: I’m sure it was a lovely service. Pity there wasn’t time to invite the family. ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/27 "2017-08-21T17:24:44Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I’m sure it was a lovely service. Pity there wasn’t time to invite the family. I had hoped that Peter Madsen was innocent and there was a simple explanation for everything. I wonder how the thoughts run from “Oh dear, Kim fell down the ladder” to “Better bury her and destroy the submarine”. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/28 "2017-08-21T18:06:34Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The submariner has said that the journalist died in an “[accident](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40999566)” aboard his submarine. So, of course, he then “buried” her at sea in Køge Bay, which lies immediately south of Copenhagen. :dubious: Okay. We’re done. I hope he can be locked up forever. So terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/29 "2017-08-21T18:14:08Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Okay. We’re done. I hope he can be locked up forever. So terrible. If he goes to jail, maybe he can escape by building a submarine in the sewer. ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/30 "2017-08-21T20:02:06Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Okay. We’re done. I hope he can be locked up forever. So terrible. Forever is unlikely in a Nordic country, unless he is declared insane and gets involuntary commitment and subsequently never recovers from whatever it is that makes him build submarines and murder reporters. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/31 "2017-08-21T20:40:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I’m sure it was a lovely service. The _UC3 Nautilus_ submarine has no torpedo tubes, so Madsen would have had to have brought the boat to the surface in order to dispose of the body. According to [its Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC3_Nautilus), the submarine has a crew of between four and eight. It also says that the crew had been due to sail on a trip in the sub, until it was cancelled the evening before by Madden, who then went on his own private voyage with journalist Wall. I’m not a submariner, but the _Nautilus_ looks like a fair-sized boat. How easy or practical is it for a single crewsperson to take on the duties of a 4-8 person crew to take a submarine out in the open sea? Not suggesting anything nefarious or that anyone else was aboard, just interested in the practicalities of one person taking a submarine out for a spin, so to speak. I’m wondering if perhaps there are any submariners, or ex-submariners, on this board who might be able to offer some insight. ---
**Author:** ![Ignotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecc23a/32.png) [@Ignotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignotus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/32 "2017-08-21T21:02:40Z")
Danish police has confirmed a female body has been found in the sea – _sans_ head and limbs…:eek: > **[Body found as Danish submarine man says missing journalist Kim Wall died...](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/21/body-found-danish-submarine-man-says-missing-journalist-kim/)** > > A headless female torso was found on Monday in the water's edge in Copenhagen, hours after a Danish inventor charged with killing a journalist in his home-made submarine told a court she died on board, police said. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/33 "2017-08-21T21:52:07Z")
Just when you think you’ve heard **The Craziest Fucking Story Ever** , along comes some old bullshit like this. I mean, really. And just think- they’re saying “it’s too early to tell” if the freakin’ headless torso is the missing journalist. Imagine if it wasn’t… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/34 "2017-08-21T22:34:07Z")
Looking more and more like a Scandinavian murder mystery. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/35 "2017-08-21T23:08:50Z")
How did the skipper survive the scuttling of the sub? Lifeboat? I confess I didn’t read the article. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/36 "2017-08-21T23:16:19Z")
Madsen must be mounting one of the weakest criminal defenses in legal history. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/37 "2017-08-21T23:18:53Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Just when you think you’ve heard **The Craziest Fucking Story Ever** , along comes some old bullshit like this. > > I mean, really. > > And just think- they’re saying “it’s too early to tell” if the freakin’ headless torso is the missing journalist. > > Imagine if it wasn’t… :eek: To be fair, it’s possible that it could be missing some bits because a human body is, at the end of the day, yummy delicious food for all the creatures of the sea. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/38 "2017-08-21T23:25:07Z")
> [@Ignotus](#): > > Danish police has confirmed a female body has been found in the sea – _sans_ head and limbs…:eek: Well, it was a bad accident. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/39 "2017-08-21T23:25:10Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Madsen must be mounting one of the weakest criminal defenses in legal history. Madsen: She ran and threw herself on my chainsaw! I swear, sir! Police: Why did you have a running chainsaw in a submarine? Madsen: The chainsaw was rabid, sir! Running around all over the place on its own. It jumped up on me, and I was lucky enough just to grab the handle! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883/40 "2017-08-21T23:53:41Z")
I’ve been seeing bits and pieces of this story float to the top of the AP news feed all day and I gotta say: this is some crazy fucked up shit that went on here, y’all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappearing-journalist-and-the-submarine/793883.md?page=3)