# The disappointment in ordering a local/regional specialty outside of that locale **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [September 21, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503 "2023-09-21T21:24:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/181 "2023-09-28T17:26:57Z")
Rendezvous should grab some of the Peabody Hotel Ducks when they come down the elevator from the penthouse and dry-rub BBQ them. [![](https://www.southernliving.com/thmb/Ps5MO4tkOZPiQEDJZO670iSSI2A=/1200x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/2518003_Besto_06-2000-f2dedad57dfc45b38306501d60d61bca.jpg) ](https://www.southernliving.com/thmb/Ps5MO4tkOZPiQEDJZO670iSSI2A=/1200x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/2518003_Besto_06-2000-f2dedad57dfc45b38306501d60d61bca.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/182 "2023-09-28T17:57:47Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > You can’t find good eastern North Carolina barbecue in Atlanta, for that matter. It’s all this tomato-based pseudo-cue down here. I can imagine it’d be impossible to find in California. Hell, you probably have those Texas-style heathens who think that “barbecue” is something you do to cows > > We barely even have that. Please, those in America Sur - send us in CA some good, life-giving BBQ, in quantity! Got your back, brother - Parker’s Barbecue in Wilson ships nationally. > **[The Original Parker's BBQ of Wilson, NC](https://parkersbbqwilson.com/)** > > Parker's BBQ is one of east Carolina's favorite restaurants. Serving the Carolinas for over 75 years. Come taste the tradition at The Original Parker's in Wilson, NC. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/183 "2023-09-28T17:58:24Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > California does have its own local style of barbecue, smoked tri-tip. Santa Maria tri-tip is awesome. And not overly glopped up with a lot of cloying sauce. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/184 "2023-09-28T18:45:15Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > California does have its own local style of barbecue, smoked tri-tip. Yeah, I do a mean tritip. dry rubbed of course, mesquite charcoal. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/185 "2023-09-28T19:28:51Z")
To be pedantic, it’s not mesquite or charcoal, it’s cooked over a red oak fire on a [Santa Maria-style grill](https://norcalovenworks.com/nsf-certified-commercial-santa-maria-grill-cart-with-4-casters-black-steel-and-stainless-steel-free-shipping/). > **[Santa Maria–style barbecue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria%E2%80%93style_barbecue)** > > Santa Maria–style barbecue is a regional culinary tradition rooted in the Santa Maria Valley in Santa Barbara County on the Central Coast of California. This method of barbecuing dates back to the mid-19th century and is today regarded as a "mainstay of California's culinary heritage". The traditional Santa Maria-style barbecue menu was copyrighted by the Santa Maria Valley Chamber of Commerce in 1978. > Santa Maria-style barbecue centers on beef tri-tip, seasoned with black pepper, salt, and garl... ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/186 "2023-09-28T19:47:51Z")
I once had a friend visit from San Francisco and bring me some gifts of bottled Mexican hot sauces, on the assumption that such delicacies would be unavailable in Chicago. I told him thanks, dude, but there are actually more Mexican people in Chicago than there are _people_ in San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/187 "2023-09-28T19:50:13Z")
There’s a little Korean place in a neighboring town here that has great Korean BBQ. Way better than the Dickey’s. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/188 "2023-09-28T19:53:32Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Santa Maria tri-tip is awesome. And not overly glopped up with a lot of cloying sauce. Good barbecue anywhere isn’t. Not saying sauce isn’t a great accent, but if you’re covering it up in sauce, it’s a bit suspect. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/189 "2023-09-28T21:52:33Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Got your back, brother - Parker’s Barbecue in Wilson ships nationally. As an aside, the original Parker’s Barbecue in Wilson needs some better search engine optimization. If you Google “parker’s barbecue” the first hit as a place in Greenville also called Parker’s (with a much more user friendly web site), then you have to scroll past a bunch of copycats with names like “Parker’s Smokehouse” and “Parker’s Grille” and “Parker John’s Barbecue” before you get to the real, original Parker’s. My God, Parker’s had become the NC version of Ray’s Pizza. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/190 "2023-09-28T22:25:29Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > Got your back, brother - Parker’s Barbecue in Wilson ships nationally. > > As an aside, the original Parker’s Barbecue in Wilson needs some better search engine optimization. If you Google “parker’s barbecue” the first hit as a place in Greenville also called Parker’s (with a much more user friendly web site), then you have to scroll past a bunch of copycats with names like “Parker’s Smokehouse” and “Parker’s Grille” and “Parker John’s Barbecue” before you get to the real, original Parker’s. > > My God, Parker’s had become the NC version of Ray’s Pizza Odd. When I googled it, Parker’s was the first thing that came up. But I’ve ordered from them before, so maybe that’s why. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/191 "2023-09-28T22:35:23Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Odd. When I googled it, Parker’s was the first thing that came up. But I’ve ordered from them before, so maybe that’s why. Oh, I see what happened, I forgot that what I actually Googled was “parkers barbecue online ordering”, as a was having trouble finding the link to order it. And when I did the link appeared to be broken. If I just Google “parker’s barbecue” the first (sponsored) link is the Parker’s in Greenville, then oddly Parker’s Facebook page (for the one in Wilson), followed by the website for Parker’s in Wilson. So they’re still not the top link, but they do show up higher. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/192 "2023-09-28T22:55:32Z")
I can occasionally find tri-tip around here. It is easy and fast to smoke and makes phenomenal sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/193 "2023-09-28T23:40:22Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > To be pedantic, it’s not mesquite or charcoal, it’s cooked over a red oak fire on a [Santa Maria-style grill](https://norcalovenworks.com/nsf-certified-commercial-santa-maria-grill-cart-with-4-casters-black-steel-and-stainless-steel-free-shipping/). Yeah, but that is just :the One True way. Many regional variations. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/194 "2023-09-29T00:08:47Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > TrademarkTM use TM > or use : tm : without the spaces You can even use parenthesis-tm™ ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/195 "2023-09-29T04:51:53Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That may be because so-called New York style is the default American style of pizza The hell you say. NY has an airy, pillowy, floppy crust, great in it’s own way, but unique. There’s a bunch of great pizza styles in the US that aren’t that. There’s also a bunch of crap styles that also aren’t that. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/196 "2023-09-29T12:44:40Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I once had a friend visit from San Francisco and bring me some gifts of bottled Mexican hot sauces, on the assumption that such delicacies would be unavailable in Chicago. A woman I know always wanted to see Paris, but had never been outside of Pennsylvania. I encouraged her to travel and eventually helped her get a passport. When she returned, she told me she tried champagne for the first time and loved it. She gave me a bottle of Veuve Clicquot. The next time I saw her I thanked her for the champagne. I told her I liked it so much that I bought another bottle. She was shocked, and started crying. I eventually got her to explain that she didn’t think it was available outside of France and the bottle she gave me was carefully brought back from there. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/197 "2023-09-29T13:12:09Z")
When I was a kid, my father took some overseas trips involving a layover at Frankfurt. He would bring back a big Toblerone bar, which was nice. Now of course, Target sells it. Global commerce means that most everything is available everywhere but that also loses the specialness of bringing back something rare. (Though there’s a short piece in the New York Times suggesting bringing back toothpaste from overseas trips, since the local brands aren’t available back home. So perhaps that sort of boring ordinary thing is the best thing to get.) ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/198 "2023-09-29T15:05:49Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > That may be because so-called New York style is the default American style of pizza > > The hell you say. NY has an airy, pillowy, floppy crust, great in it’s own way, but unique. There’s a bunch of great pizza styles in the US that aren’t that. There’s also a bunch of crap styles that also aren’t that. I sort of agree with both of you. I think of NY pizza as having a thin, foldable crust, but big puffy edges, and a patina of grease from the thin but high-fat cheese layer. The “average” American pizza has a somewhat thicker crust and a higher cheese-to-crust ratio. But I don’t know that there is a “default” American pizza style. If I walked into a random American pizzeria that didn’t specifically describe itself as “XYZ Style”, I’d think the “average” style would be most likely on offer, but I wouldn’t be surprised to be served something close to NY style, or perhaps Midwestern tavern pizza (very thin, but crisp and nonfoldable, crust), or wood-fired Neapolitan style. I’d be somewhat surprised, but not shocked, to find that they dealt in Sicilian style or deep dish. OTOH, in NYC itself, I’d certainly expect to find NY style unless specifically told otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/199 "2023-09-29T16:28:22Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I think of NY pizza as having a thin, foldable crust, but big puffy edges, and a patina of grease from the thin but high-fat cheese layer. Sounds like the pizza from Costco. I don’t say that to be catty but because that literally describes the slice of pizza I had last night after my shopping. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503/200 "2023-09-29T19:51:04Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > When I was a kid, my father took some overseas trips involving a layover at Frankfurt. He would bring back a big Toblerone bar, which was nice. Now of course, Target sells it. Global commerce means that most everything is available everywhere but that also loses the specialness of bringing back something rare. When I was living in Montana, every time I came back home to Cleveland, I had to bring back a few bottles of ballpark mustard (the best mustard in the world, in my opinion, and the perfect complement to every form of sausage-inna-bun). Nowadays, of course, you can buy it online to be shipped anywhere, but I still don’t think you’ll see it in ordinary stores outside of the Cleveland area. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-disappointment-in-ordering-a-local-regional-specialty-outside-of-that-locale/990503.md?page=11)