# The do-over MMP

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** mmp\
**Created:** [January 13, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646 "2014-01-13T10:02:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/221 "2014-01-17T23:46:12Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> OK, what if you only had enough money for \*either \*beer \*or \*TP but not both - which do you choose??

That’s easy; bottled beer. After you drink it, _carefully_ peel the label off the bottle & …TP. 🆒

> [@gotpasswords](#):
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> We get all kinds of horrible colors here.
> 
> **Snot  
> Bile  
> Puke  
> Vomit  
> Blood  
> Pus  
> Phlegm  
> Crap  
> Boogers  
> Spit  
> Barf**
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> Less shocking than I expected. I don’t remember the exact process, but it’s something to do with the hex value of the word vs how browsers render RGB values in hex to colors.

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> **Dang - now I want Chinese for supper.** I just don’t feel like going out, and as far as I know, no one delivers. Dammit. ☹

(Consecutive posts) - :eek: :eek: :eek:  
Sumpin happened to 'puter at irk yestidy, so I went in late, with a book, & sat at my desk reading for 2 hrs until they came around to fix it. I got paid to enjoy myself. 🙂

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/222 "2014-01-18T00:03:50Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I love my five acres in the woods, even if it only has a trailer on it. Owls, hawks, bunnies, raccoons, opossums and the occasional armadillo.

MMMMMMMMM… now that’s some good eatin’! 😃

**MOOOOOOM** this is JDD’s _older_ brother. He got sent to military school because he was a real PITA. I do have to give him props for stayin’ with his mom for a couple weeks at a time with only a weekend in between off. He does absolutely nuttin’ while he’s there except take her to the nursin’ home to visit his father, but at least he’s there. The sister is not much better. JDD takes care of everything that needs to be done and, to his credit, now has power of attorney for both his parents.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/223 "2014-01-18T00:04:11Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> That’s easy; bottled beer. After you drink it, _carefully_ peel the label off the bottle & …TP. 🆒

An excellent solution, Sir.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21825_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/224 "2014-01-18T00:33:52Z")

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\*\*FCD \*\*just called me - the train is about to stop in Savannah. In 6 hours, they’ve gone less than 300 miles. No wonder it’ll take more than 20 hours to get to DC!! Poor baby…

He called to ask me to bring a sweatshirt when I come pick him up - he only took short sleeves and it’s gonna be cold here tomorrow. So as soon as I post this, I’m going to put the sweatshirt in the car or I might forget it.

And now, to knit the night away! _ **MWAH!!** _

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**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/225 "2014-01-18T00:43:08Z")

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Chinese eats for us too. Some subgum wonton soup to take the edge off DH’s starvation, and now off to the gym. Then we’re off to the good place that one darest not try to go to at rush hour. At 5:00, this place is two miles and 45 minutes away. :eek: Afterwards, the General will have nothing to worry about, but the Mongols had better watch out.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/226 "2014-01-18T00:52:17Z")

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> [@swampbear](#):
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> **Alien** snot is indeed a color choice. Just please use a tissue. 😛
> 
> Ok, so teh stoopid is not quite over yet. I have someone who applied who is ineligible due to income. The woman gets $6500 a month retirement income!  
> She is very upset and wants to appeal the decision. This should be entertainin’. I told her how to appeal the decision. I shall now await TPTB to call me just to tell me the decision is upheld. The real test will be if TPTB can tell this woman the same news (ok, it’ll be in writin’) with a straight face.
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> Teh stoopid, it burns!

$6500? I don’t make that much!:eek:

I worked, I came home. I made Parmesan Herb chicken with thyme rice for dinner.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/227 "2014-01-18T00:55:20Z")

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We swiped the General’s chikin and **gotti** and DH are swipin’ the Mongolians’ beef. 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/228 "2014-01-18T01:33:14Z")

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I made sweet and sour chicken, and I came by it honest!  
🙂

Couldn’t resist some mushrooms and zucchini with all that tempura batter.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/229 "2014-01-18T01:57:27Z")

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> [@dogbutler](#):
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> $6500? I don’t make that much!:eek:
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> I worked, I came home. I made Parmesan Herb chicken with thyme rice for dinner.

This sounds good. Would you be so kind as to aim me at a recipe?

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/230 "2014-01-18T02:08:29Z")

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I hope you won’t mind if I don’t answer the exact question you posed.

But since you opened the door to such an intriguing subject, I would like to propose that it is only fair that if someone wants to have the opportunity for a “do over”, they should have to accept some kind of constraint to their decision.

I would propose that if they want to be given a “do over” then the person offering the “do over” should be able to select the exact point in time in their life where the “do over” is offered but not both the time and the event.

Allowing the recipient to select both the time as well as the specific decision made is just too easy.

For example, have you ever encountered the following logic problem in a science fiction environment?

Suppose you know someone named “A” and suppose that “A” has a friend named “B”. If you enable “A” to somehow go back in time and they murdered “B’s” mother before “B” was ever conceived, then “B” could never be born.

Then, when “A” is brought back to the present, his friend “B” would not exist because his mother was murdered before “B” was conceived and so “B” would never have been born. Please don’t try and make this more difficult by specifying some kind of fancy conception using a Petrie dish and frozen embryos. Let’s just keep it real simple? Please?

Well, a similar logic problem exists with your proposal.

For example, if you allow someone to select both the point in time of a “do over” as well as the decision they made at that point in time, they would naturally select something like the following:

They would select the time and place when they bought a lottery ticket in the Bazillion Dollar Lottery Fever and they would then specify they want to select the winning numbers (because they would already know the numbers that won.)

By the way, I hope that in your city, you are allowed to specify the numbers you play in a lottery and are not just given a preset group of random numbers.

So, would you agree that it is just too unrealistic to offer someone both the time in their life they want this “do over” as well as the decision they would like to make instead of the decision they actually did make?

It just makes this game too easy and it would destroy the entire point of the “do over”.

As a matter of fact, instead of making the game too easy, it actually makes things impossible.

As a matter of logic, they should be able to select either the point in time of the “do over” or the new decision they wish to make. But it’s impossible to offer them the ability to select both.

Do you see what I mean?

But there is an easy solution.

Just allow them to select either the point in time they wish to have the “do over” or the specific selection they want to make. But not both.

What do you think?

By the way, doing this means you get to have a lot of fun too because you get to make the choice as to what their new decision will be. This should be a lot of fun. Perhaps you might like to design some kind of new Internet game based on this action? I bet it would be possible and it would be a great deal of fun too!

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/231 "2014-01-18T02:15:13Z")

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P.S. OMG! I had no idea this thread was so large. My post above was intended to reply to the OP. I hope that it might make sense in that context.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/232 "2014-01-18T02:23:03Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> This sounds good. Would you be so kind as to aim me at a recipe?

Parmesan Herb Chicken:  
Mix olive oil, Pinot Grigio, and a double pinch of mustard powder, and brush on chicken. Mix Parmesan cheese, oregano, basil, thyme, rosemary, pepper, and sage; eyeball it so the bird looks herby) and bread crumbs. Coat the chicken. Bake at 400 degrees Fahrenheit, for 40min.  
Thyme rice:  
Mix 3 shakes thyme flakes, 2 tablespoons olive oil, chardonnay, and Better than Bullion chicken stock, add to rice and water. Cook rice according to directions  
EAT!😃

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/233 "2014-01-18T02:32:04Z")

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If I had a chance to go back and change something, I would have gone to college at the “normal” age - but then, I wouldn’t be doing it now, and I do think I appreciate it more now than I would have then. Hm. It would have been easier then, though.

I rarely eat breakfast, but I like a nice, big breakfast upon occasion- bacon, eggs, pancakes- and most importantly - _cooked by someone else._

One thing I thought interesting - in my history class, my professor was outlining the rules, and the big one was “Don’t Be A Jerk.” I doubt he’s a Doper, but it made me laugh.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/234 "2014-01-18T02:33:05Z")

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Welcome to the MMP, **Lazlo** , where no one cares if you wait five days to respond to the OP.

You present an interesting view on the subject of do-overs. But let me ask this:  
If I were to ask for a do-over on a specific day in my past, why wouldn’t I choose a time when I made a decision I then spent years, if not decades, agonizing over? Why would I choose to do-over a day wherein nothing happened?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/235 "2014-01-18T03:02:04Z")

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Shrimp.  
I thawed half a dozen shrimp for use with the tempura batter.

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**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/236 "2014-01-18T03:44:15Z")

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The Mongolians were safe tonight, much to the dismay of a lake full of sashimi fish.

Now the question is “Who cranked up the volume on the fire station’s PA?” Normally, we don’t hear the tones and dispatch calls when our windows are closed. They must use some sort of text to speech system as the dispatcher is always the same voice. Could be worse, at SIL’s house, whenever they have the fire radio on, which is “usually,” that department has some good ole boys with a drawl thicker than San Francisco fog. I’m not expecting the BBC’s Received Pronunciation, but when property and lives are on the line, clarity would be useful.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/237 "2014-01-18T03:49:20Z")

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[QUOTE=gotpasswords;17025583but when property and lives are on the line, clarity would be useful.[/QUOTE]

It would depend upon to who(m) they are speaking. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/238 "2014-01-18T05:17:06Z")

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Drinking beer, watching the dog sleep run. Life is good. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/239 "2014-01-18T05:20:49Z")

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> [@gotpasswords](#):
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> The Mongolians were safe tonight, much to the dismay of a lake full of sashimi fish.
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> Now the question is “Who cranked up the volume on the fire station’s PA?” Normally, we don’t hear the tones and dispatch calls when our windows are closed. They must use some sort of text to speech system as the dispatcher is always the same voice. Could be worse, at SIL’s house, whenever they have the fire radio on, which is “usually,” that department has some good ole boys with a drawl thicker than San Francisco fog. I’m not expecting the BBC’s Received Pronunciation, but when property and lives are on the line, clarity would be useful.

An ongoing rant I have about the local Emergency Alert System. It’s always a blast of static with an unintelligible voice just barely noticeable in the noise. That is NOT useful transfer of information!

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-do-over-mmp/678646/240 "2014-01-18T05:26:32Z")

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I irked and all went well, we had Impractical Jokers and they were actually kinda entertaining though not my kind of humor. My new PA makes me very happy, very happy.

I am having some beer and signing off for the night.

Cheers

Welcome **Lazlo** , I believe you need a Mumper Name therefore I propose…

**Arch Duke**

**Jim**

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