# The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 15, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970 "2022-11-15T18:18:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/261 "2022-12-04T02:56:13Z")
Then he wants the VP killed. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/262 "2022-12-04T04:01:54Z")
Again: Trump/Gabbard ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/263 "2022-12-04T04:17:03Z")
This is already in the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day Thread, but this deserves to be here, too: > **[Trump demands 'termination' of Constitution so he can return to power](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2658826898/)** > > Former President Donald Trump on Saturday flat-out called for the "termination" of the United States Constitution so that he could be returned to the presidency.Reacting to the news that Twitter in the runup to the 2020 election removed tweets that... > Reacting to the news that [Twitter in the runup to the 2020 election](https://www.rawstory.com/hunter-biden-2658826379/) removed tweets that featured pornographic photos of Hunter Biden, Trump declared that the entire election had been stolen from him and demanded to be returned to the presidency. > > “So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” > > This is not the first time Trump has called for his reinstatement as president, although this is the first time he has acknowledged that doing so would require the United States to shred its own Constitution on his behalf. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/264 "2022-12-04T05:12:52Z")
Wrong thread, there’s a whole other thread devoted to that. > [@Trump Might Have Called for the Termination of the Constitution](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-calls-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/975990/): > > I see this is a topic that posters would like to discuss. Here’s a thread for it. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/265 "2022-12-04T06:44:34Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But on the flip side, he’d assume that she “owed him” for letting her run on his ticket, so pussy-grabbing would definitely be on the agenda. But what’s he need _her_ for? He has 'em lining up by the score with tears in their eyes begging him to grab 'em – just ask him. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/266 "2022-12-05T23:11:14Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > And Tucker could deliver them. He’s immensely, startlingly popular with a large chunk of right-wing voters. > > Is he more famous than Hannity? He was the one who had Trump’s ear every night in the White House. It could come down to which one has the biggest audience. According to AdWeek: > [@](#): > > it was **Tucker Carlson** , not **Sean Hannity** , whose show averaged the largest total audience on cable news. Fox News’ 8 p.m. offering Tucker Carlson Tonight eclipsed Fox News’ 9 p.m. show Hannity in 2021, having averaged 3.21 million total viewers. Hannity, meanwhile, dropped to No. 3 in total viewers, averaging 2.87 million in 2021. Hannity had been the the most-watched show on cable news from 2017-2020. … Carlson has more personal popularity than Hannity among active MAGA types, I believe, too. (The ratings discussed include a lot of older folks who never get out there and carry signs, as well as the more active ones who’d be such an asset to any Trump campaign.) > **[Top Cable News Shows of 2021: Tucker Carlson Tonight Is No. 1 in All...](https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/top-cable-news-shows-of-2021-tucker-carlson-tonight-is-no-1-in-all-categories-for-first-time-ever/496940/)** > > The Five was the second-most-watched on cable news for 2021. MSNBC had three shows in the top 10 among Total Viewers, while CNN had two shows in the top 10 among Adults 25-54. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/267 "2022-12-06T15:27:57Z")
_The National Review_ comes out with the most effective anti-Trump message of this campaign season: > **[Aren’t You All Tired of This Crap? | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/arent-you-all-tired-of-this-crap/)** > > Why are conservatives putting up with this? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/268 "2022-12-06T15:38:02Z")
Hummphhh. National Review. That’s a liberal lefty rag, probably run by socialists. They probably support Antifa. /s ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/269 "2022-12-06T16:57:17Z")
True 👍. However, Trump fatigue is a winning message against Mr Barron, and it’s one that even MAGA would understand. “God, Jerry, I’m just tired of the man.” “Roseanne, do you want to go back when the President was the loudest thing in politics? Lord knows I don’t.” “Yeah, look, he had his shot in 16, lost in 20, and frankly, he hasn’t stopped whining since. I don’t want another 4 years of this, Desantis is a man who gets things done and, unlike Trump, he doesn’t complain at 3 in the morning. What’s up with that?”\* - … or Pence or Perry or whoever doesn’t have a shot in hell of winning. “Man, while I agree with the conservative platform, I just no longer agree with Trump.” It’s non-confrontational and undoubtedly true, the best of both worlds. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/270 "2022-12-06T18:21:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Man, while I agree with the conservative platform, I just no longer agree with Trump. Fealty to Trump _is_ the conservative platform. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/271 "2022-12-07T11:47:54Z")
One doesn’t _have_ to accept that framing, and it will help diminish his power to have “Trump” be disassociated from “conservative”. Regardless, in talking to people, “Trump fatigue” is a rather bipartisan, _non-confrontational_ approach to saying “yeah, not this guy.” If he is on the 2024 ballot as the R nominee, I will _ **now** _ confidently predict the number of ballots which are: 1. Straight ticket R AND 1. Excepting the President, which is left blank will smash records. Trump fatigue is real, 3 straight Senate losses in _Georgia_ for his favored candidates is a strong signal to this point. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/272 "2022-12-07T19:50:46Z")
I have no doubt Trump fatigue is a real thing in certain places that voted for him in 2016 and even 2020. MI, WI, PA are some of the obvious ones. However there are still plenty of places where that _doesn’t_ seem to be a real thing. At least yet. Ohio, Texas and Florida are some of the larger states where I don’t see Trump fatigue being a serious thing. There are plenty of less populous states, particularly in the Upper Midwest and the South where he appears to be nearly as popular as ever. How that plays out as we head toward 2024 is anybody’s guess. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/273 "2022-12-08T00:09:35Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > How that plays out as we head toward 2024 is anybody’s guess. Let’s see who he selects / endorses to run for senate in the red states where Democratic senators are running for re-election. The response to those picks will go a long way in telling us how Trump himself will do. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/274 "2022-12-08T12:04:09Z")
That’s a good little summary…but I still bristle at anyone who wasn’t “tired of this crap” by 1989\* (if you’re a New Yorker), or by mid-2015 (if you live elsewhere in the US). Even if you’re a conservative. \*the Central Park Five fiasco ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/275 "2022-12-08T14:03:16Z")
> **[‘Unmitigated Disaster’: How Donald Trump's campaign failed to launch | Semafor](https://www.semafor.com/article/12/08/2022/unmitigated-disaster-how-donald-trumps-campaign-failed-to-launch)** > > In the weeks since Donald Trump launched a 2024 run, there’s been little sign of activity, nonstop scandals, and his allies say they’re unsure who — if anyone — is in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/276 "2022-12-08T14:13:30Z")
When (not if, but when) charges start getting filed one has to wonder how it will impact the conduct of his campaign. We should be able to game this all out ahead of time with a fair degree of confidence because Trump’s playbook is already well-known. Is it possible the GOP will be hurt more if a trial date gets set closer to primaries and the party has less time to choose an anointed one? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/277 "2022-12-08T14:26:12Z")
If he gets indicted, he’ll break his contractually-imposed Twitter ban. His indictment will join the 2020 election as his two-issue platform. Who knows, an indictment may be enough to keep him from appearing on primary ballots as a Republican. I still think it’s not beyond comprehension that he runs as a Libertarian. He can become the LeBron James of presidential candidates and go from party to party. Except without the winning. As to your question as to what would hurt the GOP the most, having him at the top of their ticket will hurt the GOP. The rest is a matter of degrees. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/278 "2022-12-08T14:59:44Z")
If Trump by some miracle failed to get the nod in the GOP primaries, how likely are we to see him run on the Bull Moose party ticket? ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/279 "2022-12-08T15:03:36Z")
Teddy Roosevelt is rolling around in his grave at the mere thought 😜. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/280 "2022-12-08T15:06:48Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > If Trump by some miracle failed to get the nod in the GOP primaries, how likely are we to see him run on the Bull Moose party ticket? The Bull-something party ticket, anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970.md?page=15)