# The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 15, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970 "2022-11-15T18:18:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/441 "2023-02-27T21:26:59Z")

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He chatted about it in his Truthyiness thing back in the early part of the month, when the guest list was first announced:

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> “The Club For NO Growth, an assemblage of political misfits, globalists, and losers, fought me incessantly and rather viciously during my presidential run in 2016,” Trump wrote. “They said I couldn’t win, I did, and won even bigger in 2020, with millions of more votes than ‘16, but the Election was Rigged & Stollen.
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> “They asked to get together on Endorsements of candidates, we did, and had MANY WINS & NO losses. Relationship broke up over my Endorsement of certain great people in Alabama & Ohio. I won them all!”

[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3847759-trump-rips-club-for-growth-after-he-wasnt-invited-to-donor-retreat/](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3847759-trump-rips-club-for-growth-after-he-wasnt-invited-to-donor-retreat/)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/442 "2023-02-27T21:37:46Z")

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The Law Offices of “Rigged & Stollen”. 😆

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/443 "2023-02-27T21:38:42Z")

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He’s just getting in touch with his German roots: [Stollen - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/444 "2023-02-27T21:39:10Z")

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That’s one of the tests to see if he really wrote the post: in addition to all-caps, there has to be at least one grammar or spelling mistake.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/445 "2023-02-28T03:29:04Z")

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Great replies I have read: (Not mine)

“I hope he goes to prisson.”  
“Arresst him now!”

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**Author:** ![fordgt100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fordgt100](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fordgt100)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/446 "2023-02-28T03:41:20Z")

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The title of this thread may have taken 10 years off my life.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/447 "2023-02-28T03:47:55Z")

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This says it all. Jim Jefferies is a real straight talker.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/L-98RjrmqO4/maxresdefault.jpg "Jim Jefferies - Donald Trump - Full Length Official Clip -- From Freedumb Netflix Special") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-98RjrmqO4)

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/448 "2023-02-28T03:58:57Z")

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It’s still early, but I think it’s telling that the other declared Republican candidates, including the next person likely to announce they are running (Tim Scott), are all minorities. The conservative cis-hetero white Christian males that make up the bulk of potential candidates are sitting on the sidelines so far. IMHO that likely means they think Trump is going to be difficult to beat in the primary and they would rather not risk pissing him off in a losing effort.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/449 "2023-03-01T04:15:44Z")

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One poll has Trump favoured over DeSantis. If so, the party will be divided.

> **[Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis loses lead in 2024 GOP race, now trails Donald...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/28/desantis-trump-gop-2024-poll/11368133002/)**
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> The poll shows former president Donald Trump leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis by eight points for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/450 "2023-03-01T16:29:19Z")

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Not much real campaigning by either of them yet, at least not that’s being mentioned on MSM. And I’m not following what goes on the darker corners of the RW propaganda-sphere.

So this sounds a bit like assessing the leader in a horse race while the horses are still walking into the starting gate machinery, the jockeys are adjusting their seating position, and the horses are setting their footing.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/451 "2023-03-01T17:35:20Z")

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I’m still more than 50% certain Pence and Pompeo will get in the race before too long. Sununu, Hogan and Youngkin are not as clear to me.

And former AR Gov. Asa Hutchinson has been spending a fair amount of time in Iowa which is usually seen as an early indicator.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/452 "2023-03-01T17:49:54Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> If so, the party will be divided.

It doesn’t matter if 4 or 5 people run during the primaries, and divide the Party.

Each of the minor candidates will fall out of the race eventually, after getting 3 or 4 percent of the votes in the primaries. And maybe DeSantis will win 30%. But all that leaves Trump- and only Trump- with the ability to take 51% of the votes at the convention.  
And after the convention, the Republican party will no longer be divided. All the R congressmen, senators and governors will shout their full support of Trump.  
And 70 million voters will join them.

Can the Dems get 71 million? I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/453 "2023-03-01T17:55:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> So this sounds a bit like assessing the leader in a horse race while the horses are still walking into the starting gate machinery

More like getting saddled up in the paddock.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/454 "2023-03-01T18:03:43Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Can the Dems get 71 million? I doubt it.

Last time Trump ran the Dems got 81 million and change.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/455 "2023-03-01T18:03:54Z")

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Against Trump? it’s possible, not certain but possible.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/456 "2023-03-01T18:04:05Z")

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Moderating:

I’ve not viewed this as a P&E thread since its inception. Far more suitable for the Pit. I was recently on the cusp of closing it because it served no real P&E purpose and both P&E co-mods agreed.

Some have been trying to address the actual topic, but many have not. I’m cautioning those who are not to keep this in mind when posting going forward. Make sure your post has something to do with the Trump campaign. We already have lots of Pit threads to deride Trump. If it carries on as it has, it will be closed.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/457 "2023-03-02T03:15:03Z")

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It matters if Trump decides to run as an Independent out of spite if he does not get the Republican nomination.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/458 "2023-03-04T09:05:42Z")

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The actual F\*\*\*?

[https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/politics/donald-trump-freedom-cities-flying-cars/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/politics/donald-trump-freedom-cities-flying-cars/index.html)

> Commuters, meanwhile, could get around in flying cars, Trump said – an echo of “The Jetsons,” the classic cartoon about a family in a high-tech future society. Work to develop vertical takeoff and landing vehicles is already underway by major airlines, auto manufacturers and other companies, though widely seen as years away from reaching the market.
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> “I want to ensure that America, not China, leads this revolution in air mobility,” Trump, who [announced his third bid](https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/trump-2024-presidential-bid/index.html) for the presidency in November, said in a four-minute video detailing his plan.
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> He said he would launch a contest to charter up to 10 “freedom cities” roughly the size of Washington, DC, on undeveloped federal land.
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> “We’ll actually build new cities in our country again,” Trump said in the video. “These freedom cities will reopen the frontier, reignite American imagination, and give hundreds of thousands of young people and other people, all hardworking families, a new shot at home ownership and in fact, the American dream.”

I kept looking for some sign or hint that this was some ludicrous Onion-style parody but haven’t found any evidence of such. But I’m sure he’d love to have a bunch of new cities with his name and image splattered all over them, and he’s always been great at promising his fans anything without ever considering the practical issues involved.

If it’s a woosh, well, they got me.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/459 "2023-03-04T14:23:23Z")

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Maybe they could build a freedom city where Portland used to be before BLM burned it to the ground. I’m not up on my political theory, but these freedom cities sound socialist, and maybe just a little _woke_. I do want my flying car, but no doubt regulatory agencies wouldn’t exist, so the aerial fenderbenders should be spectacular.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/460 "2023-03-04T15:17:15Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I’m not up on my political theory, but these freedom cities sound socialist, and maybe just a little _woke_.

You know, if it wasn’t Trump proposing it, I’d kind of be in favor of such a thing. But, of course, everything Trump touches turns to shit.

A new city, built with new technologies, and a better understanding of what makes cities work, that could be used as a platform for deploying new technologies in real-world settings so they can be further developed and refined, actually sounds kind of cool. We could even have competing cities with different philosophies, to see what works best. Have one focused on the “15 minute neighborhood”. Have one focused on well-designed mass transit options. Have one focused on self-driving cars. See which one works best, which one makes people happiest.

But flying cars? Come on, man.

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