# The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 15, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970 "2022-11-15T18:18:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/461 "2023-03-04T15:34:17Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Have one focused on self-driving cars. I feel like any brand new city designed with cars in mind would be irresponsible. Walkable would be the goal. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/462 "2023-03-04T15:50:34Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I feel like any brand new city designed with cars in mind would be irresponsible. It would depend on how you do it, but part of my suggestion is that we’re trying different things to see what actually happens. Science, Baby! I’m thinking a fleet of electric, self-driving cars that can be called on demand when you need it. Owned by the city, but available to all citizens. Would this allow greater flexibility vs. a full-scale transit system? You could still have walkable neighborhoods, but use such cars for longer-distance travel, or if you have a lot of stuff to transport. If I were to do this, part of the point would explicitly to do research into how people actually use such things, and what impact that has on their lives, the economy, the environment, and everything. Of course, this is way too socialist for Trump Towns, but a man can dream, can’t he? ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/463 "2023-03-04T16:10:18Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > A new city, built with new technologies, and a better understanding of what makes cities work, that could be used as a platform for deploying new technologies in real-world settings so they can be further developed and refined, actually sounds kind of cool. We did this 50 years ago. > **[Columbia, Maryland](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia,_Maryland)** > > Columbia is a census-designated place in Howard County, Maryland, United States. It is a planned community consisting of 10 self-contained villages. The census-designated place had a population of 104,681 at the 2020 census, making it the second most populous community in Maryland after Baltimore. Columbia, located between Baltimore and Washington, D.C., is officially part of the Baltimore metropolitan area. > Columbia proper consists only of that territory governed by the Columbia Association, ... ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/464 "2023-03-04T16:48:44Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > We did this 50 years ago. > > [Columbia, Maryland - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia,_Maryland) And before that: > **[Reston, Virginia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston,_Virginia)** > > Reston is a census-designated place in Fairfax County, Virginia, United States, and a principal city of the Washington metropolitan area. As of the 2020 U.S. Census, Reston's population was 63,226. > Founded in 1964, Reston was influenced by the Garden City movement that emphasized planned, self-contained communities that intermingled green space, residential neighborhoods, and commercial development. The intent of Reston's founder, Robert E. Simon, was to build a town that would revolutionize p... But as far as building new cities in undeveloped places out west, those have been proposed over and over again with nothing happening. There’s a reason those places are undeveloped and some pie-in-the-sky (or flying-car-in-the-sky) idealist is not going to change that. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/465 "2023-03-04T16:56:05Z")
Well, one part is easy. There can be only one name for the first Trump city. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/466 "2023-03-04T17:05:42Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > There can be only one name for the first Trump city. Fraud-in-the-desert? ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/467 "2023-03-04T17:06:29Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Fraud-in-the-desert? I was thinking either Trumpistan or St. Donaldsberg. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/468 "2023-03-04T17:06:40Z")
Covfefe! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/469 "2023-03-04T17:14:00Z")
C’mon, everyone, I don’t want this knocked out of P&E. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/470 "2023-03-04T17:20:06Z")
I don’t understand how PAB can be a viable candidate. Biden beat him in 2020, and that was before the insurrection and his tax fraud not to mention the MaraLardo documents. Just overcharging the SS at his hotels would bring down anybody else. Then there are his deranged postings. All this should, in the real world, give his opponents unlimited ammo. I wish they’d use it and put this asshole in his place. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/471 "2023-03-04T17:23:31Z")
“Trumpville… Donaldopolis… Bigly City… _PENCEBURG?!?!_” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/472 "2023-03-04T17:31:38Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > All this should, in the real world, give his opponents unlimited ammo. The real world changed in 2016. We are no longer on Earth-One, where that is a reasonable assumption. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/473 "2023-03-04T18:55:48Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But flying cars? Come on, man. Until somebody gets flying cars to roll coal, I think we’re safe. > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > “Trumpville… Donaldopolis… Bigly City… _PENCEBURG?!?!_” A rebranded [Dogville](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogville). ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/474 "2023-03-04T21:00:49Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > You know, if it wasn’t Trump proposing it, I’d kind of be in favor of such a thing. But, of course, everything Trump touches turns to shit. > > A new city, built with new technologies, and a better understanding of what makes cities work, that could be used as a platform for deploying new technologies in real-world settings so they can be further developed and refined, actually sounds kind of cool. We could even have competing cities with different philosophies, to see what works best. Have one focused on the “15 minute neighborhood”. Have one focused on well-designed mass transit options. Have one focused on self-driving cars. See which one works best, which one makes people happiest. Yeah, it’s an interesting idea, but I can’t see any Republican, especially Donald Trump, following through and putting in the effort to make it actually work. Real cities have sewers, and potholes, and unemployment, and a few thousand other things that need to be managed by people who know what they’re doing. I was at Disney World a few months ago. I went on the Carousel of Progress, and saw a model city. I like that retro-futurism, but there’s something frustrating about it, too. It’s easy to create a blueprint for a perfect city, if you just imagine all the problems away. Let Donald Trump try to build his utopia. The problems will start when the second person moves in. > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > “Trumpville… Donaldopolis… Bigly City… _PENCEBURG?!?!_” “Ivanka, she’s got her own place. It’s a little bitty place.” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/475 "2023-03-05T00:57:04Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > “Ivanka, she’s got her own place. It’s a little bitty place.” I’m glad I’m not the only one who got that reference 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/476 "2023-03-05T02:44:25Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Yeah, it’s an interesting idea, but I can’t see any Republican, especially Donald Trump, following through and putting in the effort to make it actually work. Real cities have sewers, and potholes, and unemployment, and a few thousand other things that need to be managed by people who know what they’re doing. Who knew building cities could be so complicated? > **[Trump: ‘Nobody knew health care could be so complicated’ | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/trump-health-care-complicated/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump noted with some exasperation Monday the complexity of the nation’s health laws, which he’s vowed to reform as part of a bid to scrap Obamacare. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/477 "2023-03-05T03:05:45Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I don’t understand how PAB can be a viable candidate. Biden beat him in 2020, and that was before the insurrection and his tax fraud not to mention the MaraLardo documents. Just overcharging the SS at his hotels would bring down anybody else. Then there are his deranged postings. All this should, in the real world, give his opponents unlimited ammo. I wish they’d use it and put this asshole in his place. That’s par for the course so far as Trump is concerned. How many times in 2016 did you find yourself thinking something along the lines of, “This is it. This has got to sink Trump, right?” From mocking a disabled reporter to talking smack about McCain getting captured it seemed as though he could say anything and his supporters did not care. It’s why even now I can’t count him out and have to accept there’s a chance he could be the next president. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/478 "2023-03-05T03:18:52Z")
I’m afraid you’re right. Each new outrage and idiocy of his drives out the previous one, with a tipping point never reached, always receding into the future. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/479 "2023-03-05T12:03:24Z")
The real point is that his supporters _love_ each outrage, and the more outrageous his statements, the better they’re received. It’s not politics as an attempt to govern. It’s politics as a spectator sport version of pure unadulterated unabashed trolling. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970/480 "2023-03-05T12:41:01Z")
Well, in fairness, I don’t think his “we should suspend the Constitution” went over great. I think there is a line. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donald-trump-2024-campaign-thread-primary-edition/974970.md?page=25)