# The Donald's crime spree continues **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 4, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459 "2016-06-04T02:29:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/41 "2016-06-05T15:29:01Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > I have nothing to add over there. > > Concerning Hillary the old stuff is, well old. As for the email business the correct process is ongoing and that will sort itself out one way or another. > > Concerning Trump here it seems \*\*BoffKing \*\*wishes to dispense with the legal process entirely. I know many here see nothing wrong with that. I do, hence my comment. You don’t seem to have read your own posts. You never said a word about boffking’s (lower case “b” lower case “k” - do you read anybody’s posts?) wanting to dispense with the legal process (a good thing, since that phrase has null meaning). Your only comments were to insist that he talk about Hillary as well, a particularly inane demand when long threads on Hillary are currently active. It’s fascinating that like Trump you seek to deflect and deny your actual words when you are held to account on them. Also fascinating that like your master, your denials are so flimsy and insulting to the intelligence. Perhaps you should work on beefing them up, since a new Trump scandal will emerge every day from now to the election and they will all get trumpeted here on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/42 "2016-06-06T15:42:23Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Also fascinating that like your master Trump is not my master, not a sycophant to Hillary as you. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/43 "2016-06-06T16:50:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’ve wondered what would happen if he is the president elect or even just into his first term and then somehow gets indicted. Very simply every power of the executive branch would be brought to bear against any parties involved in the indictment, and against any judge that doesn’t rule in Trumps favor. Trump’s tactics against all opposition has always been to crush, denigrate and intimidate, and he seems to have a very poor understanding of the idea of separation of powers. Judges are just another cog to be strong armed as part of the negotiating process. His administrative actions would make the Nixon’s Saturday night massacre look like a hug circle. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/44 "2016-06-06T17:00:33Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > Trump is not my master, not a sycophant to Hillary as you. Cite? I’m on record here as saying I didn’t want Hillary to be the candidate due to the baggage she brings because of the insane right. I’ve hardly even mentioned Hillary in my posts. I don’t think I’ve ever posted anything overtly favorable let alone sycophantish. So how about some actual examples of that behavior or else a straightforward admission that you’re wrong? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/45 "2016-06-06T17:04:32Z")
Perhaps a new word, specifically for an overwrought Trump supporter: _psycophant_. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/46 "2016-06-06T17:57:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Perhaps a new word, specifically for an overwrought Trump supporter: _psycophant_. Trumpeteer. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/47 "2016-06-06T20:13:14Z")
Trumpa Humpa. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/48 "2016-06-06T20:19:36Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Perhaps a new word, specifically for an overwrought Trump supporter: _psycophant_. “I’m with stupid –\>” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/49 "2016-06-06T20:51:54Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “I’m with stupid –\>” More like “I’m With Stoopid”, with the arrow pointing up. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/50 "2016-06-06T22:49:41Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “I’m with stupid –\>” Did you see this classic NY Daily News Front page from earlier this year? [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/new-york-daily-news-front-pages-presidential-election-gallery-1.2512941?pmSlide=1.2512932](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/new-york-daily-news-front-pages-presidential-election-gallery-1.2512941?pmSlide=1.2512932) The New York Daily News REALLY dislikes Trump. ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/51 "2016-06-07T17:42:56Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Cite? Ahh, so you would like a cite. Not a problem. Right after I see yours on your claim Trump is my master. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/52 "2016-06-07T21:17:55Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > Ahh, so you would like a cite. Not a problem. > > Right after I see yours on your claim Trump is my master. 🙂 [Okay.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=13261129) ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/53 "2016-06-07T22:10:26Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > [Okay.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=13261129) Are you trying to insert facts into this? What are you, a liberal? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/54 "2016-06-07T23:33:49Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Trump also bribed Florida AG Pam Bondi](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-pam-bondi-donald-trump-scott-maxwell-20160604-column.html) (ethically impaired in other ways as well) over the Trump U. scam. That one might have legs (although it remains to be seen whether the fallout will impact Bondi alone or Trump, too). Florida democrats are calling for an [investigation](http://www.businessinsider.com/r-democrats-seek-probe-of-trump-donation-to-florida-attorney-general-2016-6). > [@](#): > > “Florida’s top law enforcement official solicited a donation from someone she was supposed to be investigating for fraud," Florida Democratic Party Chair Allison Tant said in a statement. > > “She even went as far as to campaign for Trump, who has made a habit of bragging about buying politicians. Floridians deserve answers and Pam Bondi must be held accountable,” Tant added. In terms of scandals, it’s a good one. Even lay people can understand a quid pro quo bribe. Attorney General is considering a criminal investigation, she asks for a “donation”, she gets it, the criminal investigation is no more. Pretty easy to digest. Of course, this is Trump, which is why I wonder if it would impact him along with Bondi. Given his rhetoric, he can probably brush it off by saying, “As I’ve said, I give money, politicians do what I want. This is why politics as usual is so dirty, and why I have been running as the anti-establishment candidate.” Personally, I think that’s weak as hell, but I can certainly imagine it placating his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/55 "2016-06-18T14:04:05Z")
> **[Donald Trump Accused of Using His Charity as a Political Slush Fund](https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-accused-of-using-his-charity-as-a-political-slush-fund?via=FB_Page&source=WiredFacebook)** > > When the GOP nominee donated to veterans’ groups recently, he did so using the Trump Foundation—which, according to FEC and IRS rules, should not be engaged in political activity. He’s also been using money from his charity to fund his campaign against FEC rules. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/56 "2016-06-18T14:28:49Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > [Donald Trump Accused of Using His Charity as a Political Slush Fund](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/16/donald-trump-accused-of-using-his-charity-as-a-political-slush-fund.html?via=FB_Page&source=WiredFacebook) > He’s also been using money from his charity to fund his campaign against FEC rules. [The money was just resting in his account](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VajdHXR3VrM). ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/57 "2016-06-18T17:36:13Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > [Donald Trump Accused of Using His Charity as a Political Slush Fund](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/16/donald-trump-accused-of-using-his-charity-as-a-political-slush-fund.html?via=FB_Page&source=WiredFacebook) > He’s also been using money from his charity to fund his campaign against FEC rules. From that article: _Howard, concerned that being presented with money by a political candidate at a political rally might jeopardize his charity’s nonprofit status, called an expert in the state’s attorney general’s office, who confirmed his suspicions_. Does this mean that the other nonprofits who did accept money at campaign rallies may have jeopardized their nonprofit status? I realize that it may be state dependent (he did contact the the state attorney General) but that would be awful if these nonprofit organizations got screwed up by this. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/58 "2016-06-18T18:18:46Z")
It does read like they may have. But that a one time mistake may be met with less than the most severely possible response. An egregious offense, like one suspects the Trump Foundation’s, though may warrant a more significant action. See [here](http://www.nonprofitexpert.com/political-campaigns/). And [here](https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/limits-political-campaigning-501c3-nonprofits-29982.html). > [@](#): > > In order to maintain tax-exempt status, 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations cannot engage in political campaigning. Nonprofits with 501(c)(3) tax exempt status should be ever vigilant about this prohibition – a violation could result in severe consequences. > > The federal tax law is very strict on the issue of political campaigning: A 501(c)(3) organization is absolutely forbidden to directly or indirectly participate in any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Violation of this prohibition could lead the IRS to completely revoke your organization’s tax-exempt status or impose excise taxes on your organization. > > In other words, the IRS is serious about this issue, and your board of directors and officers should be equally serious in making sure that your organization complies with federal law in this area. … > > … Although the IRS has the power to revoke your tax-exempt status, it typically uses this punishment only in the most egregious cases. More likely, the IRS will ask your organization to correct the violation and implement procedures to make sure the violation will not occur again. If the organization’s funds were used to engage in the prohibited activity, the IRS may also impose excise taxes. It also seems like something that any charity’s executive board should be very aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/59 "2016-06-21T09:46:34Z")
What are the chances of any court actually charging Trump for any of these crimes or misdemeanours? And what are the chances of him actually being convicted? And of going to jail? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/60 "2016-06-21T10:42:54Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > Here is the relevant [law](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/599). > It wasn’t business as usual. It was a felony. The law, from your link: > [@](#): > > Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. So is Trump the person who, being a candidate, gave a promise or pledge? Or is it Christie? If it’s Trump, to what public or private position of employment did he promise to appoint Christie? If it’s Christie, for what office is he a candidate? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459.md?page=4)