# The Donald's crime spree continues

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 4, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459 "2016-06-04T02:29:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/61 "2016-06-21T10:48:12Z")

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**Maastricht** ,

Trump Foundation (the putatively apolitical charity) having to pay some taxes … seems probable to me.

The bribes are harder to prove. And if charged will be after the cycle is over I’d suspect.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/62 "2016-06-22T16:25:52Z")

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> **[Trump directs nearly one-fifth of his money to his own businesses | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/)**
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> Donald Trump has directed nearly one-fifth of his campaign cash to companies that are part of his vast business empire, new federal records show.

Trump’s campaign funds are going to his own businesses.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/63 "2016-06-22T16:55:59Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/)  
> Trump’s campaign funds are going to his own businesses.

If he has done this to the tune of $11 mill over the campaign then why is this the first time we’re hearing about it? They file quarterly reports right?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/64 "2016-06-22T17:23:33Z")

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From The New York Times. [Donald Trump’s Self-Funding Includes Payments to Family and His Companies](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/22/us/politics/donald-trump-self-funding-payments.html?_r=0)

Bottom line. He’s not braking any campaign financing laws to this point, although what he’s doing is unusual. He’ll have to watch himself in the future, though, as he raises money from the public because using their contributions to pay himself back for his loans to the campaign would be illegal.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/65 "2016-06-22T17:46:13Z")

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Not illegal, just cheesy. Not that I’d expect any more from the Trumpmeister.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/66 "2016-06-22T17:51:17Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> …He’ll have to watch himself in the future, though, as he raises money from the public because using their contributions to pay himself back for his loans to the campaign would be illegal.

Can you expand on this? How else could his campaign pay back those loans that Trump made to the campaign, other than by using public contributions?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/67 "2016-06-22T18:32:17Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> Can you expand on this? How else could his campaign pay back those loans that Trump made to the campaign, other than by using public contributions?

AFAIK, it’s against the rules to use General election donations to pay off Primary debt. So up until the convention he can use contributions, though it could be political suicide, but after that it’s a no no.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/68 "2016-06-24T18:21:09Z")

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The trial date for the complaints against Trump University is set in November, after election date. [Trial date set in Trump University lawsuit - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/campaign-2016-donald-trump-trial-date-set-in-trump-university-lawsuit/)

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/69 "2016-06-25T02:43:03Z")

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Rather convenient for Mr. Trump. That trial was originally scheduled for the summer. I wonder if the judge in question has received any unusual “donations” recently.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/70 "2016-06-25T04:21:04Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> Rather convenient for Mr. Trump. That trial was originally scheduled for the summer. I wonder if the judge in question has received any unusual “donations” recently.

Judge Curiel agreed that the trial should be after the election so it would not become a big spectacle and “factor” in the election itself. IIRC, Trump publicly praised him at the time for that decision. Next thing we knew, Curiel made another decision, IIRC to publicly release part of Trump’s deposition. That’s when Trump went berzerk with his denunciations of Curiel.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/71 "2016-06-30T23:36:40Z")

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> **[Sources: Donald Trump Listened In On Phone Lines At Mar-A-Lago](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lag)**
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> Trump had a phone console near his bed that could connect to every phone in the estate, and several former workers said Trump used it to secretly listen in on phone calls in the mid-2000s. Two Trump supporters said the tycoon didn’t eavesdrop.

He spied on phone calls at Mar-A-Lago. Isn’t wiretapping a felony?

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/72 "2016-07-01T00:11:00Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> [Sources: Donald Trump Listened In On Phone Lines At Mar-A-Lago](https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-lines-at-mar-a-lag?utm_term=.iy70ZNbpW#.bulgal2zN)  
> He spied on phone calls at Mar-A-Lago. Isn’t wiretapping a felony?

The only allegation made in the article is that he listened in on employee phone calls (with employees and non-employees).

As the article says:

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> Florida state law generally makes it a crime to intercept or record phone calls without the consent of everyone in a conversation, but legal experts said that the law might not apply to employees using business phones at work.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/73 "2016-07-01T16:36:49Z")

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> **[President Trump's Federal Employees Wouldn't Be Able To Stay At Most Trump...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-hotels-fire-safety_n_57752ed5e4b0bd4b0b13b378?section=)**
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> The properties are missing from a federal list of hotels approved for fire safety.

Fire safety issues found at most of Trump’s hotels.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/74 "2016-07-01T16:45:52Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> [President Trump's Federal Employees Wouldn't Be Able To Stay At Most Trump Hotels | HuffPost Impact](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-hotels-fire-safety_us_57752ed5e4b0bd4b0b13b378?section=)  
> Fire safety issues found at most of Trump’s hotels.

That’s not what it said. Trump’s hotels haven’t submitted the paperwork needed to go on the list of hotels federal employees are allowed to stay at on gov’t business.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/75 "2016-07-02T06:08:04Z")

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> **[Man Who Wants Nuclear Codes Spent Charity Funds On Tim Tebow Autograph](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-charity-tim-tebow_n_57769648e4b04164640fc1f8?section=)**
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> A breach of IRS rules? Maybe. A breach of ethics? Definitely.

He has also spent thousands of dollars of his charity’s money on personal purchases.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/76 "2016-07-02T11:28:50Z")

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Including spending $12,000 of money from a charity to buy himself [an autographed Tim Tebow helmet.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/01/donald-trump-used-money-donated-for-charity-to-buy-himself-a-tim-tebow-signed-football-helmet/)

No doubt he thought of it as a sound investment.

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/77 "2016-07-02T16:15:27Z")

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Talk of Trump being a criminal and nobody is going to mention the possible [rape case](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html)?

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/78 "2016-07-21T15:47:06Z")

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> **[Melania Trump speechwriter reveal raises even more questions](https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-speechwriter-reveal-raises-212627156.html)**
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> The Trump campaign's attempt to put its convention week controversy to rest raised even more questions.

The speechwriter works for the Trump Organization, not the Trump Campaign. This constitutes an illegal campaign contribution from a corporation.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/79 "2016-07-21T21:10:08Z")

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The R wrote: Talk of Trump being a criminal and nobody is going to mention the possible rape case?

Being raped is bad enough, but can you imagine being raped by _Donald Trump_?

“This is going to be the best rape ever. I’m so yuge.”

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-donalds-crime-spree-continues/756459/80 "2016-07-22T07:13:57Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> [Melania Trump speechwriter reveal raises even more questions](https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-speechwriter-reveal-raises-212627156.html)  
> The speechwriter works for the Trump Organization, not the Trump Campaign. This constitutes an illegal campaign contribution from a corporation.

Okay, so is anything actually going to be investigated here by the proper authorities? And if it IS found to be illegal, what exactly does it mean for the Trump campaign?

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