# The Dopes Who Break GD Rules **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264 "2006-08-04T00:38:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/1 "2006-08-04T00:38:54Z")
My sense is that personal insults are once again getting out of hand in Great Debates. I wouldn’t be pitting this except for the attacks on a guest in this thread and the participation of a mod which appears to sanction the negative behavior. See [14yr old girls are really women](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=382441) Here’s what I’m talking about. > [@glee](#): > > All SDMB posters who make meaningless generalisations from a couple of personal experiences are called Ty Cobb. I know this. [QUOTE=FRDE] - does that make the poor, hormonally screwed up, little type a ‘man’ ? [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=dahfisheroo] Perhaps Ty Cobb could answer that question FRDE. Ty, are you a man? [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=bump] Maybe you should change your username to be another famous weirdo… say “ **JerryLeeLewis** ”. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=MEBuckner] **Moderator’s Note:** **TyCobb** , this thread isn’t quite as silly as your [other one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=382440), . [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=miss elizabeth] Does anyone else think\*\* TyCobb\*\* knocked up a 14 year old, had her get an abortion, and is now a bit worked up about it? Or is that just me? [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/2 "2006-08-04T00:54:27Z")
My sense is that the jackass in question deserves much worse than the mild jabs you quoted. He’s an obvious troll. A “guest” enrolled this month, started two threads in GD with one line OPs that do nothing but attempt to start a flamefest. Fuck him. And, since we’re in the pit, fuck you for such a weak assed pitting on a non-issue. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/3 "2006-08-04T00:56:15Z")
If you’re gonna quote the Moderator **MEBuckner** , why not quote the whole thing, not just what makes your position sound good? > [@](#): > > Moderator’s Note: TyCobb, this thread isn’t quite as silly as your other one, but once again, if you want to actually have a debate on this subject, you’ll need to provide some sort of reasoning or facts to back up your position, respond to other peoples’ counter-arguments, and so forth. In both cases the Moderator correctly suggested to the OP that he/she learn the rules of debate before posting stupid one-liners. Get it now? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/4 "2006-08-04T00:57:12Z")
There’s also a little “report this post” button that you could try. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/5 "2006-08-04T00:59:39Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] There’s also a little “report this post” button that you could try. [/QUOTE] Which actually works quite well. I used it either last night or the night before, and **Skipmagic** took care of the problem in about 15 minutes or so. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/6 "2006-08-04T01:00:43Z")
> [@glee](#): > > All SDMB posters who make meaningless generalisations from a couple of personal experiences are called Ty Cobb. I know this. That’s not an insult. > [@FRDE](#): > > - does that make the poor, hormonally screwed up, little type a ‘man’ ? That comment was not aimed at the OP, and was in the context of an attempt to seriously adress the “issue” raised by the OP. Although I guess you just added it to explain this one: > [@dahfisheroo](#): > > Perhaps Ty Cobb could answer that question FRDE. Ty, are you a man? Which is a bit antagonistic, but not an insult. > [@bump](#): > > Maybe you should change your username to be another famous weirdo… say “JerryLeeLewis”. I suppose “wierdo” is a bit insulting, but it’s pretty tame. The implication that the OP wants to have sex with fourteen year olds could be insulting under other circumstances, but is not entirely unwarranted given the nature of the thread. > [@MEBuckner](#): > > Moderator’s Note: TyCobb, this thread isn’t quite as silly as your other one… As long as I can remember, the rule in GD has been, “You can insult the post, not the poster.” **MEBuckner** didn’t call **TyCobb** silly, he called his threads silly. And I’d argue that “silly” is not really much of an insult in the first place. > [@miss elizabeth](#): > > Does anyone else think TyCobb knocked up a 14 year old, had her get an abortion, and is now a bit worked up about it? Or is that just me? I’ll give you this one, mostly out of charity, but note that it was posted _after_ **MEBuckner** ’s comment, and no mod has posted since then, so it’s not clear that it received “sanction” from a mod. If you really think it (or any of the other posts) crossed a line, report it and see what happens. I don’t think you’ll get much of a response, though. Were I a mod, I would not consider any of those posts to be in violation of GD rules. I’ll also add, since this is the pit, that **Ty Cobb** is about the single most incompetent troll I’ve ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/7 "2006-08-04T01:09:33Z")
Moving this thread to _Great_… Oww! Get off me! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/8 "2006-08-04T01:10:58Z")
**The Flying Dutchman** , I can only mildly agree that \*\*bump \*\* is not doing the correctly thing, the rest really are not worthy even to grant a comment in MPSIMS, but it is hard to be reasonable with a poster that does not bother to come back and explain what he meant, leaving the door open to speculate after an OP that leaves open a big hole that implies that 14 year old girls can ignore the law. Silliness is the least of the troubles \*\*TyCobb \*\* is getting into. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/9 "2006-08-04T01:11:28Z")
And I’ll point out that **TyCobb** has a grand total of three posts. One was his GD thread that got locked, one was his other one line OP in his pedo-creepy thread about 14 year old girls, and the last was a borderline troll in the thread about whether a decapitated head retains conciousness. He’s a serious contender for the Asshole de tutti Assholes award, at least for today. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/10 "2006-08-04T01:23:30Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] He’s a serious contender for the Asshole de tutti Assholes award, at least for today. [/QUOTE] That would make a nice award, but some of us wouldn’t have enough room on our mantels. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/11 "2006-08-04T01:34:01Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] And, since we’re in the pit, fuck you for such a weak assed pitting on a non-issue. [/QUOTE] Fuck yourself [QUOTE=samclem] If you’re gonna quote the Moderator **MEBuckner** , why not quote the whole thing, not just what makes your position sound good? In both cases the Moderator correctly suggested to the OP that he/she learn the rules of debate before posting stupid one-liners. Get it now? [/QUOTE] No. I edited the post to be concise and to the point. I had no issue with the rest of the post. Surly you can understand that. [QUOTE=Guinastasia] There’s also a little “report this post” button that you could try. [/QUOTE] Sure, but I was appealing to a wider audience and wanted some discussion. Furthermore, do you see any sense in reporting half a dozen posts including a moderator’s to a moderator? I admit that none of the posts were offensive enough to merit a report but they were borderline and I would love to see GD free of personal digs. Thats my feeling. [QUOTE=Miller] As long as I can remember, the rule in GD has been, “You can insult the post, not the poster.” **MEBuckner** didn’t call **TyCobb** silly, he called his threads silly. And I’d argue that “silly” is not really much of an insult in the first place. [/QUOTE] Don’t be so silly. When you call all a person’s statements silly than you’ve implied that person is silly. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/12 "2006-08-04T01:39:32Z")
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman] Don’t be so silly. When you call all a person’s statements silly than you’ve implied that person is silly. [/QUOTE] Silly it may be, but it is an [established rule in GD.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=220232) > [@(appropriately enough) MEBuckner](#): > > The general rule is to attack the other poster’s arguments, rather than the other poster him- or herself. ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/13 "2006-08-04T01:42:28Z")
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman] Don’t be so silly. When you call all a person’s statements silly than you’ve implied that person is silly. [/QUOTE] But according to GD rules, it’s okay to mock the argument as long as you don’t mock the poster. > [@](#): > > The general rule is to attack the other poster’s arguments, rather than the other poster him- or herself. ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/14 "2006-08-04T01:43:32Z")
Damn you **Miller**! I’ll get you yet, if it’s the last thing I do! ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/15 "2006-08-04T01:45:06Z")
You’re right, in retrospect I did break the rules. I’m a dope. Sorry. In my defense, may I just say the thread was pretty dumb anyway? It really was. And when you look at both of them together, it is a bit funny. But it was still against the rules, and I apologise. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/16 "2006-08-04T01:47:32Z")
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman] Fuck yourself [/QUOTE] Jeeze, your pit-fu is weak, grasshopper. You could have at least questioned my manhood, lineage, or patriotism. A reference to goat felching might have gotten a crowd pop. But no, now they’re all chanting “BOR-ING, BOR-ING”. On the other hand, when I suggest something like, oh, I dunno…why don’t you go run your testicles through a meat grinder, and the douse the bloody wound with rubbing alcohol, the crowd leaps to their feet chanting “OAKIE! OAKIE! OAKIE!”. Sigh. Kids these days just don’t know how to work a match anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/17 "2006-08-04T01:55:46Z")
[QUOTE=The Flying Dutchman] Fuck yourself [/QUOTE] Since I am a lawyer, and we like to argue in the alternative, my alternative response is: Dude, if I could fuck myself, I’d never leave the house. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/18 "2006-08-04T01:59:03Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] On the other hand, when I suggest something like, oh, I dunno…why don’t you go run your testicles through a meat grinder, and the douse the bloody wound with rubbing alcohol, the crowd leaps to their feet chanting “OAKIE! OAKIE! OAKIE!”. [/QUOTE] Damn, I’d pay to see that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/19 "2006-08-04T02:04:12Z")
[QUOTE=nameless] Damn you **Miller**! I’ll get you yet, if it’s the last thing I do! [/QUOTE] [Arrogant French Accent]Once again, Dr. **nameless** , we see there is nothing you can think of that I cannot post first.[/Arrogant French Accent] ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264/20 "2006-08-04T02:12:03Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Jeeze, your pit-fu is weak, grasshopper. You could have at least questioned my manhood, lineage, or patriotism. A reference to goat felching might have gotten a crowd pop. But no, now they’re all chanting “BOR-ING, BOR-ING”. [/QUOTE] Boring? You seem to have more effort invested in this thread than I do. Judging by the number of responses I’m getting from you, I sure seemed to have pushed your buttons. I hope you have something else going for you tonight. BTW, thankyou for adding some excitement to my thread 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-dopes-who-break-gd-rules/367264.md?page=2)