# The Downfall of Downfall: Or all those Hitler parodies got taken down from YouTube.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 22, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-downfall-of-downfall-or-all-those-hitler-parodies-got-taken-down-from-youtube/537009 "2010-04-22T17:18:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-downfall-of-downfall-or-all-those-hitler-parodies-got-taken-down-from-youtube/537009/41 "2010-04-25T19:36:20Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I can totally see Constantin’s point - all these parodies have completely trivialized what should be the climactic scene in their film. Never mind the money, the free advertising, the viral word of mouth - if it lessens the impact of that moment in the film, it isn’t worth it to the actor, to the writer, to the director. That’s the point of copyright, to allow the artist a degree of control over how their work gets used.

I just flipped on the TV to get some music in the background, and this movie is currently running on the ARTE channel here (in Germany). Not sure my German is good enough to actually follow the film, but as soon as I saw Hitler all I could think of was the parodies. Debating whether or not to leave it on for the bunker scene.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-downfall-of-downfall-or-all-those-hitler-parodies-got-taken-down-from-youtube/537009/42 "2010-04-25T20:14:23Z")

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I bought the film on Blu Ray because of one of those parodies. I have yet to watch it.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-downfall-of-downfall-or-all-those-hitler-parodies-got-taken-down-from-youtube/537009/43 "2010-04-28T15:14:46Z")

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> [@Monkey\_Chews](#):
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> Yeah, do we have any lawyers in the house who can comment on whether this falls under “fair use”?

I had a chance to chat with some of the attorneys from EFF last Friday. They’re of the opinion that it’s clearly Fair Use. They’re obviously biased but even an attorney from Fox Entertainment didn’t protest too strenuously when the subject was discussed.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-downfall-of-downfall-or-all-those-hitler-parodies-got-taken-down-from-youtube/537009/44 "2010-04-29T04:38:35Z")

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When I worked in a copyright permissions office for a textbook company, our typical benchmark for Fair Use was 20 copies of 10% of a work we owned. Anything we didn’t wholly own, of course, had different and more complicated rules. We wouldn’t have been okay with someone posting ten percent of one of our books online, though, whether for profit or not.

But I must say that those dippy videos convinced me to Netflix the movie. I was actually thinking of watching it tonight, but it’s sitting on the bookcase still.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-downfall-of-downfall-or-all-those-hitler-parodies-got-taken-down-from-youtube/537009/45 "2010-05-01T06:34:24Z")

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Is there [hope](http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrearosen/save-the-hitler-finds-out-videos-136)?

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