# The drum fill

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [July 24, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002 "2017-07-24T03:14:49Z")\
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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> Danny Carey is a [genius](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hglVqACd1C8).

Somehow I keep reading this post as [Dana Carvey is a genius](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMNWjbX-iU).

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/42 "2017-07-26T14:37:22Z")

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Simple Minds - [Don’t You Forget About Me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A) ~3:40.

Tears for Fears - [Everybody Wants to Rule The World](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST86JM1RPl0) ~2:30

Led Zeppelin - [Good Times Bad Times](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFj0rxyNCtc) . . . the opening bit, namely the part at ~0:10.

Van Halen - [Jump](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM) ~1:12 and also ~3:10

Primus - [John The Fisherman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkFMJ4-ai1I) . . . so many fills, so hard to pick.

Queen - [Fat Bottomed Girls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0) ~1:20 and also and more importantly ~2:20

When my band used to do those songs, it was all I could do to not sing along with those fills.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/43 "2017-07-26T21:54:19Z")

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The latest song I’ve heard with excellent fills is still around 13 years old - [Give 'em Hell, Kid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKw_konZphs) by My Chemical Romance. None of them are very complex but they (starting at :18) drive the song ahead so perfectly and are so completely energetic.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/44 "2017-07-27T00:40:52Z")

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A fantastic, sessioned-with-everybody drummer who tragically, SHITTILY went off the deep end, eventually bashing in his mother’s skull with a hammer, Jim Gordon took on the drumming chores on Steely Dan’s _Pretzel Logic_ lp, and in “Rikki Don’t Lose that Number” (its beginning reminiscent of Horace Silver’s “Song For My Father”) he plays a number of great fills, and [these](https://youtu.be/zv-tjDsdduc?t=95) [two](https://youtu.be/zv-tjDsdduc?t=237) stand out.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/45 "2017-07-27T01:31:07Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> (its beginning reminiscent of Horace Silver’s “Song For My Father”)

Reminiscent? I always just assumed it was a direct quote of “Song for my Father.” Slightly different key (sounds a half step down to me) but that had to have been intentional, I assume.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/46 "2017-07-27T06:08:38Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Reminiscent? I always just assumed it was a direct quote of “Song for my Father.” Slightly different key (sounds a half step down to me) but that had to have been intentional, I assume.

I’ll go with that.

Some more splunge Ringo fills (how _can’t_ ya luv the guy!):  
[“With a Little Help From My Friends”](https://youtu.be/SkyqRP8S93Y?t=38)  
[“Lovely Rita”](https://youtu.be/5I5QtW0Th9s?t=5)  
his most impressive? [“Oh Darling”](https://youtu.be/eF_mhA7HT2Y?t=126)

Ian Paice of Deep Purple gets a nod with several fills in “Space Truckin”:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8zGJ9N7c6pE/maxresdefault.jpg "Space Truckin' - Deep Purple") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zGJ9N7c6pE&t=20)

[https://youtu.be/8zGJ9N7c6pE?t=136](https://youtu.be/8zGJ9N7c6pE?t=136) (I find the visuals to this one quite, um…ahem - uplifting?)  
[https://youtu.be/8zGJ9N7c6pE?t=208](https://youtu.be/8zGJ9N7c6pE?t=208)  
His series of triplets as the song fades out is also cool.

Simon Philips has fills coming out the yin-yang in Jeff Beck’s “Space Boogie”, off his _There and Back_ lp.  
If I had to limit to just three picks…(especially the last two, with the last one being one of the slicker outros)

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ij7yR0LubxY/hqdefault.jpg "Space Boogie - Jeff Beck") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7yR0LubxY&t=228)

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ij7yR0LubxY/hqdefault.jpg "Space Boogie - Jeff Beck") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7yR0LubxY&t=249)

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ij7yR0LubxY/hqdefault.jpg "Space Boogie - Jeff Beck") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7yR0LubxY&t=283)

Indeed, always liked that great Simple Minds fill, **Eonwe**.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/47 "2017-07-27T11:27:42Z")

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**Mitch Mitchell** in “Fire” with Hendrix.  
Decent cover: [Fire- Jimi Hendrix (Drum Cover) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF_lCvp6eNY)

**Steve Gadd** in (everything but especially) “Aja” with Steely Dan.  
From 6:56 onward: [Steely Dan - Aja - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG2seugAgnU)

Maybe someone can post some examples of **Buddy Rich**.

And just for fun, at 1:31:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Uctu1e353os/hqdefault.jpg "Black Sabbath Iron Man Lyrics") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uctu1e353os)

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/48 "2017-07-28T01:44:19Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> **puly** - it’s the Clash, I Fought the Law.
> 
> ETA: “Robbin’ people with a six gun” is the line with that fill underneath it.

The [original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT8xsCaDNa4) was by the Bobby Fuller Four (fill at ≈ 1:18).

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/49 "2017-07-28T02:06:05Z")

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> [@campp](#):
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> No love for Ginger Baker? Listen to his fills through this track, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8WYMkTP5\_s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8WYMkTP5_s) from 1966.

I always loved [this break/fill](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NholHANoY) at ≈ 2:15 in “Strange Brew”.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/50 "2017-07-28T02:07:14Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> The [original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT8xsCaDNa4) was by the Bobby Fuller Four (fill at ≈ 1:18).

Oddly, I am very familiar with the original, but somehow never really noticed it there.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/51 "2017-07-28T02:40:08Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Oddly, I am very familiar with the original, but somehow never really noticed it there.

Yup, me too.

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John Merryman of Cephalic Carnage is bonkers good, and seeing him live I had to pinch myself and constantly re-install my jaw.  
Examples here from three tunes give an idea:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MRCcmKiIt84?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLRSfCEcd-uafG2t3aAbbqZpWwgAW8NzEX  
fun times opening, then a nice quick one @ 0:21, and a blistering one @ 1:07

https://www.youtube.com/embed/V8-wojhxhFs?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLRSfCEcd-uafG2t3aAbbqZpWwgAW8NzEX  
Starting at @1:45, there’s a 25-second passage where the drummer’s fills synchronize quite awesomely groovy with the band.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jjEptmWwvII?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLRSfCEcd-uafG2t3aAbbqZpWwgAW8NzEX  
From 0:53 - 1:29, more of the second example.  
This shit’s stupid tight.

the formidable [youtube world](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+merriman+-+cepahlic+carnage) of JM.

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Genesis - [Afterglow.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0jJcCqVqg)  
> I always enjoyed the double drums (Phil Collins and Chester Thompson) during the outro, with my favorite fill at the 4:00 mark.

Beat me to it. But I prefer the version on Three sides Live. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0A1h29qRvk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0A1h29qRvk) The epic double fill is at 4:13.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/54 "2017-07-28T17:31:24Z")

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That fill has a bit of a provenance - Chester Thompson brought it over from his Zappa days - [More Trouble Every Day](https://youtu.be/TTkNxr7z7ao). First one is at 0:25 and recurs throughout the song.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/55 "2017-07-28T18:55:01Z")

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Here’s the story if you’re interested. It’s at 1:35:31 in [this video of Zappa drummers talking about Zappa.](https://youtu.be/ztoeFXJsxJI?t=1h35m31s) The rest of the video is interesting if you’re into Zappa drummer lore BTW. Plus it has the incredible Ruth Underwood, which is a treat.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/56 "2017-07-28T21:22:01Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> The [original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT8xsCaDNa4) was by the Bobby Fuller Four (fill at ≈ 1:18).

Almost. The original was by [Sonny Curtis with the Crickets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hw846vx_uk), released in 1959 – after Buddy Holly’s death. And it contains the six hard drum shots. (Around the 1:15 mark.)

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-drum-fill/792002/57 "2017-07-28T21:28:37Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Almost. The original was by [Sonny Curtis with the Crickets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hw846vx_uk), released in 1959 – after Buddy Holly’s death. And it contains the six hard drum shots. (Around the 1:15 mark.)

Damn! I had no idea!

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Primus - [John The Fisherman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkFMJ4-ai1I) . . . so many fills, so hard to pick.  
> When my band used to do those songs, it was all I could do to not sing along with those fills.

That’s my absolute FAVORITE Primus song. The guitar and bass work are legendary, and as you note, the drumming is FANTASTIC!

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> [@mack](#):
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> Here’s the story if you’re interested. It’s at 1:35:31 in [this video of Zappa drummers talking about Zappa.](https://youtu.be/ztoeFXJsxJI?t=1h35m31s) The rest of the video is interesting if you’re into Zappa drummer lore BTW. Plus it has the incredible Ruth Underwood, which is a treat.

Holy goalie, thanks trillions! Watching it felt like I was sitting in on something dare I say intimate. Would’ve been cool to see Jimmy Carl Black (IF this had been shot before his passing in '08, not to mention that something tells me he might not have been on _quite_ the same wavelength as the others…I could be wrong), as well as Aynsley Dunbar, but hey getting five drummers together like that is impressive and inspiring. Neat jam at the end.

Speaking of Fill:p Collins from a couple posts earlier:

Off _Duke_ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2h5i7CNVw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2h5i7CNVw)

From [18:02 to 18:13](https://youtu.be/4j2h5i7CNVw?t=1081) - two fine fills, and a nice [roundhouse](https://youtu.be/4j2h5i7CNVw?t=3213) one right at the very end of the lp.

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Damn! I had no idea!

Neither did I. Here’s a [listenable version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLoskF32tCU). (And the lyric is “Robbin people with a **zip** gun” there, which makes more sense than “six gun” I suppose, since a “zip gun” is a thing, and a “six gun” isn’t (though I’ve always interpreted it as poetic license for a six-shooter.)

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