# The Duggars are expecting again (#20!!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 8, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283 "2011-11-08T15:55:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/121 "2011-11-10T13:36:05Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > No, she found religion before she met Jim Bob (actually that’s how they met). After her miscarriage she a read something about birth control causing miscarriages, and that led to her & Jim Bob discovering the Quiverfull movement. BTW before her conversion she did date and had several boyfriends. Is it REALLY called the “Quiverfull” movement? 😃 Methinks her quiver overfloweth… ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/122 "2011-11-10T15:25:16Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Is it REALLY called the “Quiverfull” movement? > > 😃 > > Methinks her quiver overfloweth… Yes, after Psalm 127, verses 4 - 5: Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one’s youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate. (that’s the NIV version). Quiverfull people believe that they are fighting a war against Satan and his minions (that’s the rest of us) and that their children are soldiers in that war. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/123 "2011-11-10T17:43:50Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Does this same joke have to come up every time? > > I believe strongly in reproductive rights. To me, that means that abortion is the absolute right of any woman. But it also means that people have the absolute right to have as many children as they want, for whatever reasons they want. I don’t agree with this. Here in North America with our wasteful, overconsuming ways, we seem to think we’re exempt from the problems of the rest of the world and we can do as we please. > [@DianaG](#): > > Sure they do. I don’t think anyone has seriously advocated _preventing_ them from breeding like cockroaches. But I’m allowed to think it sucks. I would seriously advocate preventing them from breeding like cockroaches. Mind you, I don’t think anyone is listening to me… > [@marshmallow](#): > > It’s funny because religious people who don’t believe in evolution still out compete those who do believe in it. God sure does have a sense of humour. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/124 "2011-11-10T18:04:49Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Yes, after Psalm 127, verses 4 - 5: Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons **born in one’s youth.** Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate. (that’s the NIV version). > > Quiverfull people believe that they are fighting a war against Satan and his minions (that’s the rest of us) and that their children are soldiers in that war. Bolding mine…they seem to be forgetting this part. Neither of them is in their youth anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/125 "2011-11-10T18:08:01Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > Bolding mine…they seem to be forgetting this part. Neither of them is in their youth anymore. I’m not a Biblical scholar, so take this with a block of salt, but I wonder if the connotation of that word simply means during years of reproduction? In any event, yea, I agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/126 "2011-11-10T18:21:50Z")
Parents who have ONE disabled child would look upon these people as if they’d lost their minds. Parents with two or more disabled children would probably burn their fancy house down. What will we find in a few years as little Josie grows up? Will she have seizures or cerebral palsy? Will she need physical therapy? Medication? Special ed? The Duggars need to look back on ALL their kids and thank their God that #1, or #4, or #14 wasn’t born with special needs. Michelle Duggar has had a LOT of help, and not just from her daughters. Neighbors actually knock on her door and ask, “What can I do for you today?” I remember reading a magazine article where she said she was just overwhelmed by the laundry (duh???). A lady down the street showed up and said, “I want to help you,” and Michelle turned the laundry room over to her. How swell! When will I have a neighbor show up on MY doorstep, offering to do the damned laundry? You look at all the kids, and you don’t see any with glasses, with hearing aids, with orthodontic work, nobody with crutches or wheelchairs. Although Michelle might need a wheelchair to haul around her VERY tired uterus… ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/127 "2011-11-10T19:20:49Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Quiverfull people believe that they are fighting a war against Satan and his minions (that’s the rest of us) and that their children are soldiers in that war. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/128 "2011-11-10T19:41:11Z")
> [@Surreal](#): > > Cite? [Here](http://www.quiverfull.com/articles.php/id41/). ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/129 "2011-11-10T19:52:58Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I don’t agree with this. Here in North America with our wasteful, overconsuming ways, we seem to think we’re exempt from the problems of the rest of the world and we can do as we please. > ) Technically when it comes to population/overpopulation it doesnt matter if you are SUV driving wasteful conservative or a live of the land recycling hippy. EITHER lifestyle has an “the earth can’t take anymore” population limit associated with it. That number will be different, but it will still be finite (and in either case IMO probably not as big as many think it is). Also, while I am not sure of the exact number and or how to implement it, I sure don’t have any hearburn with the basic concept of “you can only breed so much”. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/130 "2011-11-10T20:10:39Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Technically when it comes to population/overpopulation it doesnt matter if you are SUV driving wasteful conservative or a live of the land recycling hippy. EITHER lifestyle has an “the earth can’t take anymore” population limit associated with it. > That number will be different, but it will still be finite (and in either case IMO probably not as big as many think it is). > > Also, while I am not sure of the exact number and or how to implement it, I sure don’t have any hearburn with the basic concept of “you can only breed so much”. I do. I have only one child and don’t expect to have any more. But I would be greatly incensed if any government bureacrat decided that I wasn’t ALLOWED to have any more. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/131 "2011-11-10T20:15:58Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > I do. I have only one child and don’t expect to have any more. But I would be greatly incensed if any government bureacrat decided that I wasn’t ALLOWED to have any more. So, you’d be the one to decide to have that one extra kid that finally sinks the boat called planet Earth. Thanks for your support. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/132 "2011-11-10T22:00:30Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > So, you’d be the one to decide to have that one extra kid that finally sinks the boat called planet Earth. Thanks for your support. I don’t have any kids and don’t plan to, so she can have my reproduction ration card. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Miss\_Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Sunshine)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/133 "2011-11-11T04:01:28Z")
I don’t care what anyone says, there is no way the parents can bond with all of those kids the same… The children don’t get individualized attention like they should. It is more like the older siblings take care of the younger ones. Also for being so religious, Bob and Michelle sure are horny all the time. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/134 "2011-11-11T06:12:04Z")
I can’t help but wonder how many bribes the OB/GYN who performs the c-section will be offered to make a couple of extra snips while he/she is in there. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/135 "2011-11-11T07:10:02Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > I’m not a Biblical scholar, so take this with a block of salt, but I wonder if the connotation of that word simply means during years of reproduction? > > In any event, yea, I agree with you. And back when that verse was written, many children didn’t survive to adulthood. So back in the day, yeah, women may have gotten pregnant twenty times or so, but how many of those pregnancies survived full-term? And for those that did, how many were stillborn, or how many of those kids lived past their fifth birthdays? My grandfather was one of eleven kids, and my great-grandmother had several miscarriages, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/136 "2011-11-11T13:04:56Z")
They are turning into a parody of themselves - and why do Josh and Anna and now their two sprogs get top billing over the other 18 sibs? It’s time to cut them loose from the show! I am surprised the Duggars don’t garden (they did let a friend come over and plant tomatoes/cukes (once)), and I doubt they recycle. I don’t see any pets in their house either. One day I predict some of the kids will write a tell all book. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/137 "2011-11-12T16:23:32Z")
The Duggars do have a pretty good sized garden. And they have a dog, a little mutt named Jasmine (I only remember this because I thought it was silly of them to have wasted such a pretty J name on a dog, LOL) though she’s seldom included on the show. But yeah, I think a tell-all book from one of the kids that flies the coop/stops drinking the Kool-Aid will be forthcoming one of these days. With 20 kids, the odds are not in their favor of ALL the kids staying within the fold forever. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/138 "2011-11-12T17:07:25Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Yes, after Psalm 127, verses 4 - 5: Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one’s youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate. (that’s the NIV version). I guess daughters are just so much unknapped flint. I think the Duggars should go out with a bang: take a bunch of fertility drugs and have some sextuplets or whatever for a closing act. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/139 "2011-11-12T17:16:22Z")
“That’s a hell of an act. Have you got a name for it?” “_The Theocrats!_” ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283/140 "2011-11-13T12:27:28Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > “That’s a hell of an act. Have you got a name for it?” > > “_The Theocrats!_” OMG that’s hi_lar_ious! ! ! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-duggars-are-expecting-again-20/602283.md?page=8)