# The E3 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 15, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573 "2015-06-15T12:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/1 "2015-06-15T12:13:33Z")
So E3 is this week and this is the thread to discuss presentations, announcements, hype trains, etc. The Microsoft conference is today at 1230 eastern. I’ve greatly enjoyed my Xbox and my Surface Pro 3, so I’m excited to see what Microsoft has in store. Remember: This is all best case scenario stuff. Don’t get _too_ excited about anything you see. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/2 "2015-06-15T13:50:35Z")
The Bathesda panel last night was pretty cool An announcement of a new Doom game, an Elder Scrolls…card…thing, a new Dishonored (!!!) and more details about Fallout 4, including that it is coming out THIS NOVEMBER! Like I said in a different thread, I am psyched for EA because I’m dying for some Mass Effect news ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/3 "2015-06-15T13:56:23Z")
I’m not sure whether to be excited or worried about such a short leadup time to the Fallout 4 release. On the other hand, it HAS been five years since New Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/4 "2015-06-15T14:40:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I’m not sure whether to be excited or worried about such a short leadup time to the Fallout 4 release. I’m not too worried because rumors have been swirling for quite a while now. They were just (semi) successful at keeping things under wraps. ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/5 "2015-06-15T16:03:41Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I’m not sure whether to be excited or worried about such a short leadup time to the Fallout 4 release. > > On the other hand, it HAS been five years since New Vegas. I saw somewhere that they’ve been working on it more or less since FO 3, they’ve just kept it all under wraps. It’s not like they are starting from scratch. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/6 "2015-06-15T18:15:33Z")
I’m not an xbox owner, so I can’t really judge on their presentation other than to say backwards compatibility is huuuuuuuge for them. If I was a 360 owner I would have no reason NOT to switch. Also everyone needs to look at an indy game called Cuphead. It’s in the 1930s style (Popeye, old Mickey stuff) animation and it’s gorgeous! Your move Playstation ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/7 "2015-06-15T18:20:57Z")
Interesting. I hope this forces Sony to follow suit. Granted, I don’t have any of my PS3 games anymore, but it would be nice to be able to mine the bargain bin at Gamestop. ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/8 "2015-06-15T18:43:31Z")
Sony’s PS3 hardware is just too different for BC - that’s why the initial PS3s had an entire PS2 crammed into them to have BC. The best they could really do is make some PS4 versions of the game that require the old PS3 game in the drive, but I really doubt they’d do that. Between that and the “we’ll have mods!\*” announcement, MS’ll finally start actually competing this generation, though. \*not necessarily exclusive, and certainly quite limited. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/9 "2015-06-15T19:01:52Z")
I thought it was an interesting presentation. You can see that Microsoft is taking seriously their stated intention to integrate PC and console gaming. The new controller looks sweet, I think one of the games has cross-platform gaming, and this mod thing could be amazing, although I’m not sure how they’re going to work out the latter. I’m intrigued by ReCore. I mostly like that it’s not dreary with seven shades of gray and brown. ETA: Oh, and Hololense looks like witchcraft. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/10 "2015-06-15T19:37:19Z")
Microsoft’s E3 was extremely underwhelming. The only decent things I saw were ReCore (no gameplay), Rare’s pirate game (no real gameplay), and Cuphead (also on PC). Keep in mind that the backwards compatibility is **curated** , that is, only games they take specific effort to work on will be on there. You probably won’t be able to pop in more obscure games like Tales of Vesperia in there, at least not for a long while. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/11 "2015-06-15T21:10:39Z")
UUUGGGGHHHH Not only do I have to wait until Christmas of NEXT GODDAMN YEAR for the new Mass Effect (Andromeda it’s apparently called), but I got NO information on a revamped version of the original trilogy. I waited all day for this? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/12 "2015-06-16T03:15:56Z")
https://www.youtube.com/embed/jXU5k4U8x20?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLsiJPoHlPqEGof_M-yNYPa_es4ONmfFCo Five minutes of Star Wars: Battlefront footage. Looks boss. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/13 "2015-06-16T06:43:05Z")
Sony had a great conference, EA’s was super boring, and Ubi’s was entertaining, but didn’t have much of substance. LAST GUARDIAN GUYS ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/14 "2015-06-16T06:56:24Z")
The stuff I looked at: **Doom 4:** I just don’t want this game to be a trainwreck like Duke Nukem Forever. It looks alright - don’t think it’ll be great or worth playing more than once, but should be fun for a playthrough. **Mass Effect: Andromeda:** Pretty much zero real information so hard to say anything, really. I loved the Mass Effect series all the way up until the last thirty minutes of the third game, but damn if those last 30 minutes didn’t put a bad taste in my mouth. I remain interested but EA has a hill to climb. **The Old Republic: Knights of the Fallen Empire:** My friend excitedly told me there was a new KOTOR, which made me very happy. Then I found out it was just another MMO expansion. BOO! BOOOOOO! **Final Fantasy 7 Remake:** color me EXTREMELY surprised this is happening - I always kinda felt it would never happen as the game is just too large to remake with current-day graphics. Excited to know more, though. **Dishonored 2:** Weirdly enough, the trailer actually made me _less_ interested in playing the game after watching. Not sure why it didn’t speak to me. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/15 "2015-06-16T08:05:05Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > LAST GUARDIAN GUYS I predict lots of reviews gushing over emotion and calling it art, giving high scores but conveniently overlooking that as a game it is really quite basic and poor. Like Ico. ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/16 "2015-06-16T14:54:31Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > a new Dishonored (!!!) Which, according to the Feminist Frequency folks, is _sexist_ because it doesn’t have an _exclusively female_ protagonist… At this point, are they just trolling the trolls for attention? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/17 "2015-06-16T16:07:09Z")
> [@Unpronounceable](#): > > Which, according to the Feminist Frequency folks, is _sexist_ because it doesn’t have an _exclusively female_ protagonist… > > At this point, are they just trolling the trolls for attention? Well then send them over to the trailer for Lost Horizon (or was it just Horizon?) and they can have feminist boners over badass-robo-killing-Indian-girl ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/18 "2015-06-16T17:17:36Z")
> [@Unpronounceable](#): > > Which, according to the Feminist Frequency folks, is _sexist_ because it doesn’t have an _exclusively female_ protagonist… Cite? I went and checked Feminist Frequency website and twitter account and saw nothing like this. Did Anita give an interview where she said something like this? I thought the argument was that there were too many exclusive male protagonists. Looking at a single game, it is not sexist to have an exclusive male protagonist if it serves the narrative. The problem lies in that the majority of games have exclusive male protagonists, a smaller percentage give a choice, and a very small percentage have an exclusive female protagonist. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/19 "2015-06-16T17:21:20Z")
> [@Unpronounceable](#): > > Which, according to the Feminist Frequency folks, is _sexist_ because it doesn’t have an _exclusively female_ protagonist… > > At this point, are they just trolling the trolls for attention? “At this point?” That’s all they have ever been. They are scum who got paid $200,000 to complain about how much they hate female characters in video games. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573/20 "2015-06-16T17:21:24Z")
> [@Wolverine](#): > > Cite? I went and checked Feminist Frequency website and twitter account and saw nothing like this. She didn’t say it was sexist. She [did say that she was disappointed](http://i.imgur.com/I0IQtmU.png) that there wasn’t an exclusively female protagonist. I suppose there’s an argument there that, if you want equality, you should be happier with both male and female options rather than being upset that you’re not forced into a female option. She also complained about the excessive violence in DOOM and that Fallout 4’s crafting system was used almost exclusively to make guns so I guess there’s plenty of material if you wanted to roll your eyes at her anyway. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-e3-thread/722573.md?page=2)