# The Eagle has been photographed (Apollo 11)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 17, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351 "2009-07-17T16:23:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/21 "2009-07-17T21:55:01Z")

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This does not belong in a forum for the Mundane and Pointless.

Rather, this is one of the coolest things ever! My grandfather worked at Grumman and helped build the LM. This is the first I’ve seen of them in 40 years.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/22 "2009-07-17T21:57:34Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I agree. I pledge to not make any more ‘it didn’t happen’ jokes. It’s so 2001, anyway.

The jokes are OK, even if they are a bit lame, but hand-wringing about how the deniers will point to this or that and claim victory is pointless: They’ll point to _anything_ and claim victory.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/23 "2009-07-17T22:04:44Z")

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So you guys still think there’s a ‘moon’, is that it?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/24 "2009-07-17T22:37:16Z")

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I think I can make out some footpaths (and maybe some buggy paths?) on Apollo 17 as well. And maybe just a _hint_ on 15. Not nearly as defined as 14 though. So cool. I wonder which of those specs is the LRV?

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/25 "2009-07-17T23:16:33Z")

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That is _so freakin’ cool_. As is your grandfather, **Mack Tuck**. What did he do, or is it way too technical for the likes of us non-techies?

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/26 "2009-07-18T01:39:55Z")

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> [@whiterabbit](#):
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> That is _so freakin’ cool_. As is your grandfather, **Mack Tuck**. What did he do, or is it way too technical for the likes of us non-techies?

He was a metal cutter, and claimed to have cut some of the parts for the LM’s. He also said he put his lunchbox on it while he ate, but I don’t believe that part.

I used to have a pin that he gave me. It was given to all the Grumman employees who worked on the LM. Wish to hell I could find it. He was always very proud to have participated in the Apollo program.

At the Cradle of Aviation Museum on Long Island they have several LM plaques signed by the workers. I need to spend a day there just looking for his signature.

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/27 "2009-07-18T03:07:02Z")

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Somehow I don’t see them letting anybody put their lunchbox on any of the LMs. 🙂

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/28 "2009-07-18T14:47:41Z")

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> Future LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution.

I’m eagerly anticipating even better pix!

Brian

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/29 "2009-07-18T15:30:35Z")

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Me too… maybe we can see, once and for all, if Apollo 11’s flag is still standing or if it _did_ get knocked over by the lift-off.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/30 "2009-07-18T15:57:57Z")

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There’s a big, beautiful picture of Armstrong posing by the LM taken by Buzz as my desktop background right now–beautiful!

I was a toddler and don’t remember the landings, but I do remember the excitement of Apollo 13 and following the later missions in elementary school.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/31 "2009-07-18T21:59:00Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> The pictures were obviously faked by NASA in a transparent attempt to validate their patently false ‘moon landing’ hoax. Sheesh…
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> -XT

Well, when I first saw the thread, I thought it said “The Eagle has been photo **shopped** ”! So I guess this isn’t the joke thread. ☹

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/32 "2009-07-19T03:27:19Z")

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Please let this at least move toward the end of the whole “never happened” movement.

Probably not, though, since people still insist 9/11 was some sort of government conspiracy, despite overwhelming evidence otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/33 "2009-07-20T05:55:48Z")

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I was watching a documentary earlier today about Apollo 11. They mentioned that the ascent stage of the Lunar Module was jetisoned while still in lunar orbit, and eventually crashed as its orbit decayed. (Checking Wikipedia, the ascent stages from all six landings, as well as the descent stage from Apollo 10 all impacted the moon somewhere.)

Do we know the locations of those sites precisely enough to take pictures? Even if the debris is too small to see, the impact craters might show up in photographs.

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/34 "2009-07-20T10:30:41Z")

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According to the various articles I have read there is about 176 mertic tons of man made equipment on the moon.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/35 "2009-07-20T12:53:28Z")

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> [@whiterabbit](#):
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> Somehow I don’t see them letting anybody put their lunchbox on any of the LMs. 🙂

Why not?

It’s just a fabricated assembly of metal. It’s not uncommon for cutters, fitters and welders to eat at their workstations. There’s no real reason not to.

Of course, it might be a fanciful story (people in metalworking USUALLY eat in a lunch room) and we weren’t there so we don’t know, but there’s nothing implausible about it.

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**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/36 "2009-07-21T01:13:32Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Me too… maybe we can see, once and for all, if Apollo 11’s flag is still standing or if it _did_ get knocked over by the lift-off.

Is there someone suggesting that it **is** still landing? I’ve recently read by Andrew Chaikin’s book, A Man on the Moon, read Gene Kranz’s book, Failure is Not an Option, watched From the Earth to the Moon, and read a bunch of articles. (Can you tell I was on a roll?) Anyway, the point is, I sawseveral references to how difficult it was to get the flag planted, that they managedto do so only shallowly, and that the liftoff of the LM blew it over. I read/saw nothing to suggest it was still standing.

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-eagle-has-been-photographed-apollo-11/503351/37 "2009-07-21T03:00:07Z")

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I just assumed that nobody would want food on an LM, it being a very complicated piece of machinery. Nearby, perhaps, but not actually on top of one.

Also, the lunch bit sounds like a story somebody’s grandfather would tell to impress the hell out of the grandkids. 🙂

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