The egg came first!

As long as you don’t re-Kant, that’s fine by me.

So then we’re left with this burning question: Which came first, the chicken or the Sugar Ball Watermelon?

My apologies for interrupting your sophisticated conversation. I’ve only been in cyberspace for three months and haven’t quite got my bearings. I came here to track down the origin of a word and saw this thread. I haven’t seen an argument like this since the Dark Ages, something about angels dancing on the head of a pin.

Is this like a “Think Tank?” I’ve heard about them but never been inside one before. It’s kinda like porno for intellectuals. I’m not knocking porno, intellectual or otherwise, it’s just that everybody knows you can’t create anything with porno, you just get off on it!

Alex, I knew I had “just entered bullshit land” when I read your droppings. Sorry about my dragon’s droppings, it’s impossible to domesticate a dragon. We are in pursuit of Truth but my dragon loves to eat bulls and the smell of bullshit carried us here. No bull. (This is the postcard you requested.)

Bytegeist, I use words as tools and information as a means to an end, not an end in itself. I seek Understanding and meeting like minded companions along the way is always refreshing. What’s with “h*ll?” Can’t you say “hell?” It’s a filthy word invented by priests to terrify children and control the ignorant so I can’t fault you for disguising it.

Mathochist, I took your link to the works of “The Great Master” and found the article insufficient and decided to reopen a thread on " the sound of one hand clapping." (I hope I get this link thing right.)

Well, I better get my fairy tale out of here. Most townspeople don’t much care for Wizards & Dragons.

I warn you, most of what you bring up has likely been brought up by other newcomers a dozen times before, and most of what you’ll get are links to the old threads.

Hear that? The sound of one ass cheek clapping against a door.

You are really funny, because the words you say are obviously of the type that are meant to impress girls and pretentious artsy types. You say that we talk intellectual porno. No… when we speak we are trying to convey arguments that we’ll then dissect and argue in return. We try to make points, and then defend them, and think about them critically. When you speak, you throw out unsupported assertions and points and feel that they prove themselves just from the way they sound. When you speak, you just say words that sound profound but don’t actually convey any sort of argument or critical thinking. Your words are the ones that would be very accurately called “intellectual porno,” in that they are precisely the ones that so-called “intellectuals” (such as yourself, i’m sure) get off on.

Look, if you’d like to argue something, put it in your own words, make it comprehensible, and wait for us to respond. As an excercise, drop your pretentious language and see if what you’re still saying anything interesting. That last thing is probably a quite effective litmus test, but I doubt you’d pass. I doubt you’d be able to construct dull prose that is nevertheless interesting because of what it is saying.

I can’t stress this enough, your words are meant for getting laid or getting invited to a gallery and a wine tasting. They are not meant for actual philosophical debate, and they don’t impress anyone here.

I doubt you even understand most of what you’re saying, or else you wouldn’t be throwing out conclusions. You’d be throwing out arguments.

Do you understand the difference? Do you understand that the latter requires thinking and intelligence and the former just sounds impressive?

Give us arguments, not your pornographic conclusions.

Ok, it took a while to figure it out, but it seems to say that you agree that that sentence was meaningless. I respect a man for being able to admit fault, and I was probably unnecessarily harsh above.

But just please try to speak without all that flowery BS. Trust me, everyone here, and everyone you know in the physical world, will appreciate it tremendously!!! Seriously, I’m sure you annoy many people by doing that (and if you don’t annoy them, you still lead them to think poorly of you). I’m never good at giving advice in a sugar-coated way, but I hope you’ll hear it out despite that. (And yeah, yeah, I know I have to figure out how to write in a more plain way as well.)

Mathochist, thanks for the warning but that’s exactly what I’m looking for. I’m sure it’s obvious to everybody that I don’t fit in here. By revisiting the “one hand” thread I might connect with my kind of people and not disturb other “cyber realities.” The path to Understanding Oneself is an inner and solitary journey and the probability of connecting with like minded people is rare, but I thought since I’m here I’d give it a shot.

I also found out how you buried the link in your words. That’s a neat trick so my visit here has been worthwhile for me. If by chance anybody here has an affinity for my “dragon’s droppings,” I thought I’d experiment and put in a link to my blog . And in case it doesn’t work here’s the url http://keep-on-growing-up.blogspot.com/ Take care.

(The “my blog” link took me to “Microsoft” when I tested it with “Preview Post,” but the url took me right to my blog. I’m going to gamble and see if “Microsoft” is a default setting in “Preview Post” and hope the “my blog” link works when posted.)

(It just occurred to me that I might be violating SDMB protocol. I didn’t see anything against it and I don’t know what else to do, so here goes.)

The “my blog” link didn’t work and took me to “Microsoft” again. Anybody have any ideas as to what went wrong?

No, actually, the path to understand yourself is in large part hearing what everyone else has to say about you. But, I mean, yeah, finding like-minded people is often important, no matter how it may shut you off from everyone else. But if you accuse anyone else of engaging in intellectual pornography… ha, there’s no idiot in hell who won’t think of you as a hypocrite. I’m not saying that such things are wrong, but that’s a bit of self-understanding that you could definately use.

Sorry I can’t visit your blog, but the domain is blocked in China.

After rechecking the “my blog” link, I discovered I omitted the second quote sign. After adding the quote sign and rechecking with “Preview Post,” the link worked okay. Live and keep learning. This computer world is remarkable.