# The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim post-release thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540 "2011-11-10T22:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/441 "2011-11-22T19:00:50Z")
Heh, one time I fast traveled to a daedric shrine - Boethiah I think, up in the hills east of Windhelm. When I get there a dragon spawns directly overhead, and the daedric priest instantly initiates dialogue. I hit tab to get out of it to fight the dragon, but he puts me into dialogue again. So there we are, him lecturing me on what I must do to get his attention, and all the while this dragon is strafing his buddies with fireballs. And of course, I get no “You idiot, talk to me AFTER the dragon is dead!” dialogue option. ---
**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/442 "2011-11-22T19:07:31Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Some Questions: > > 1. I Read in the Wiki that followers don’t level with you. Anyone know if that is true? If so, I guess you have to keep “trading up” to new followers as your progress? According to [UESP.net](http://UESP.net), the attributes of a particular follower is determined when you first enter that zone, and do not increase unless: 1. You use the console to sort of ‘reset’ them. The UESP article on followers have more details. 2. I read on elderscrolls.wikia that there are quests for some followers that will ‘reset’ them and redetermine their attributes. However, even on that page the next sentence was about how this has not yet been confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/443 "2011-11-22T19:13:52Z")
I have had the same follower the whole time (too much a pain in the ass to get all the stuff off one and put it on another). I don’t know if she levels up with me, but she doesn’t seem notably weaker now than she did when we first started, even though the mobs have gotten tougher. I can say that when I do a quest that causes her to go back to my house so that I can have a different companion, that she ‘resets’ to her default armor and weapons until I talk to her and go into the trading screen (where she whines about carrying my burdens). When you exit she is then in the armor and weapons I’ve given her again. Gave me a bit of a turn the first time I did a quest that used a different companion and I met her back in my house wearing her default stuff…thought she had lost all the armor and weapons I had given her. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/444 "2011-11-22T19:31:35Z")
Speaking of followers, I killed off Lydia pretty early on. Or rather, she killed herself off, by running into a room with about 15 baddies. Found her body after the fight, didn’t feel like redoing it so figured I’d just leave her dead. Several levels later, I find her dead body in my house in Whiterun. WTF? Now I have dead Lydia in my bedroom and I can’t figure out how she got there or how to get rid of her. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/445 "2011-11-22T19:33:31Z")
> [@Athena](#): > > Speaking of followers, I killed off Lydia pretty early on. Or rather, she killed herself off, by running into a room with about 15 baddies. Found her body after the fight, didn’t feel like redoing it so figured I’d just leave her dead. > > Several levels later, I find her dead body in my house in Whiterun. WTF? Now I have dead Lydia in my bedroom and I can’t figure out how she got there or how to get rid of her. Is that what you told the police? “Oh no officer, I knew the girl but I didn’t kill her and I don’t know how she got in my bedroom.” Save your breath! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/446 "2011-11-22T19:33:46Z")
Yuck…she must be getting ripe by now. :eek: That brings up a question though…how do you move objects in this game? In Fallout you could hit (IIRC) the Z key and pick up objects or bodies and cart them around. But I haven’t seen a way to do that in Skyrim. Is there a way? -XT ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/447 "2011-11-22T19:44:35Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Yuck…she must be getting ripe by now. :eek: That brings up a question though…how do you move objects in this game? In Fallout you could hit (IIRC) the Z key and pick up objects or bodies and cart them around. But I haven’t seen a way to do that in Skyrim. Is there a way? > > -XT On the XBox you hold the “action/take” button for a second or two and then release. Move to where you want to drop the item/person, then tap the button again. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/448 "2011-11-22T19:53:50Z")
Not sure what that translates into on the PC but I’ll check it out. Anyone tried any of these top 5 gaming mods for Skyrim on [Gamespy](http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/elder-scrolls-v/1212918p1.html)? I’m especially intrigued by the last one. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/449 "2011-11-22T20:00:30Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Not sure what that translates into on the PC but I’ll check it out. > > Anyone tried any of these top 5 gaming mods for Skyrim on [Gamespy](http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/elder-scrolls-v/1212918p1.html)? I’m especially intrigued by the last one. 😉 It’s your “Use” key, I think it’s E by default. Hold it down on a body and you can slowly drag it around. I’ve tried the key command fix, which is great for those of us who have remapped keys. After you remap keys, the on-screen prompts in the game stay the same but sometimes you still have to hit the original key. The mod mostly fixes that. The nude mod works fine too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/450 "2011-11-22T20:10:41Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Heh, one time I fast traveled to a daedric shrine - Boethiah I think, up in the hills east of Windhelm. When I get there a dragon spawns directly overhead, and the daedric priest instantly initiates dialogue. I hit tab to get out of it to fight the dragon, but he puts me into dialogue again. So there we are, him lecturing me on what I must do to get his attention, and all the while this dragon is strafing his buddies with fireballs. > > And of course, I get no “You idiot, talk to me AFTER the dragon is dead!” dialogue option. I fought a dragon near the stables outside Riften. The female Dunmer out there got in my way and I hit her once. That guard really wanted his fine, and was lecturing me while they rest fought on behind him. ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/451 "2011-11-22T20:16:50Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Not sure what that translates into on the PC but I’ll check it out. > > Anyone tried any of these top 5 gaming mods for Skyrim on [Gamespy](http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/elder-scrolls-v/1212918p1.html)? I’m especially intrigued by the last one. 😉 I heard there was an update today. Do the mods still work? I haven’t updated the game since it downloaded the 200mb one upon installing. I’ve kept Steam off and have been running the .exe directly. Should I even bother turning Steam back on? Anything I’m missing right now? I’m very interested in the 3-D map mod. I’m currently trying to get to Kematu’s mountainside hideway and took a south turn early and am on the south side of the mountain range. I’m currently working my way west as it seems quicker than going back the way I came. I did find an interesting little tent setup next to a small pond. No one was there, and I left _most_ of the stuff. Also I found some sort of ritual circle (it must be old as the outline is covered in mushrooms) with some skillup books, and shrine in the area. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/452 "2011-11-22T20:23:02Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > ETA: Re: Dragons: I had a situation at least once where I fast traveled to an area, had a dragon overhead I blasted him a few times and he flew off and never came back. Think about it from the dragon’s point of view, bearing in mind that “fast travel” still takes the same in-game time as trudging. Dragon: “Hey, look, a traveler on the road…nah, I just had a couple of elk, I’m not hungry. And he’s not messing with me. He can keep walking, and I’ll keep circling on these nice thermals.” \ Dragon: “WTFBBQ! We were getting along so well, and he just went nuts! Screw this, I’m outta here.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/453 "2011-11-22T20:49:03Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > "WTFBBQ! I’ve seen those letters, but I am not sure what they all mean: What The Fuck Barbie-Que? ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/454 "2011-11-22T21:03:13Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I’ve seen those letters, but I am not sure what they all mean: > > What The Fuck Barbie-Que? Well, “[barbecue](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/omgwtfbbq)”, but yes. It must have been a loldrake. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/455 "2011-11-22T21:25:23Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > Well, “[barbecue](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/omgwtfbbq)”, but yes. It must have been a loldrake. Heh. I knew “QQ” in leet-speak was crying/whining, but I didn’t know if the BBQ was expressing a feeling of betrayal or some form of surprise or crying. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/456 "2011-11-23T00:00:16Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > I get the impression that the Khajiits are camped outside of towns because the guards won’t let them inside the towns. I think that’s a theme of the game, that the towns are racist towards them. > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Well remember that in Whiterun the guards almost wouldn’t let YOU in and only did because you had business with the Jarl. When you tell the Jarl’s dumner captain about the dragon she says “ah, no wonder they let you inside.” If you talk to various characters it’s made clear that it’s a long term policy to not let Khajiits into cities. Ysolda in Whiterun talks about how mistrusted they are, for example. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/457 "2011-11-23T02:14:11Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > If you talk to various characters it’s made clear that it’s a long term policy to not let Khajiits into cities. Ysolda in Whiterun talks about how mistrusted they are, for example. They’re essentially fantasy gypsies. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/458 "2011-11-23T02:29:33Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Is there any use for the various gems (rubies, sapphires, etc.) lying around other than selling them? I know I can make jewelry with them, but a silver ring has the exact same power as a gold diamond ring right? I haven’t tested this for sure, but I think the value of the item may affect how powerful your enchantment can be. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/459 "2011-11-23T05:11:24Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I’ve seen those letters, but I am not sure what they all mean: > > What The Fuck Barbie-Que? I recall once reading that the BBQ is actually some thing seen from Korean online gamers that doesn’t mean what our BBQ does, but it got picked up by English speakers somehow attached to WTF. Get it now? Me neither. Funny, though, the first time I saw it was on a website listing the hardware specs needed to play Oblivion. My hardware at the time was rated OMFGWTFBBQ. ---
**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/460 "2011-11-23T05:13:38Z")
I played my first two hours of the game last night. Here’s something that made me chuckle: After meeting with Ralof’s sister and her family at the sawmill I went for a midnight swim. To maintain game immersion (pardon), I de-equipped all of my character’s items and outer clothing before jumping into the glacier-fed stream. She’s a Nord, so I figured she could take the cold, although she’d want to warm up by a fire afterward. When my character entered Ralof’s sister’s house still in her skivvies, Ralof’s brother in law said “hey, no one told me we were having a party!” I’m on my way north with the bard to clear out Halted Stream Camp. I hear there’s safe storage containers there where I can stash my stuff until I can afford a house. Does anyone know if we can add war paint later in the game, or are we stuck with the appearance we created in the beginning? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=24)