# The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim post-release thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540 "2011-11-10T22:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/461 "2011-11-23T05:14:50Z")
> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#): > > Does anyone know if we can add war paint later in the game, or are we stuck with the appearance we created in the beginning? No, unfortunately. Though if you’re playing for the PC I’m sure there’ll be a mod to do that eventually. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/462 "2011-11-23T06:18:39Z")
I just dinged 70, and it looks like there may not be a hard cap there. I have quite a few skills left below 100, and I still have an experience gauge. I have come to conclusion that my character is the Elder Scrolls equivalent of Iron Man. I only have the recent movies upon which to base this comparison, but he: 1. Is filthy rich, and made most of his money selling military equipment. 2. Wears a suit of armor (which he made) that makes him nearly indestructible. 3. Can emit shockwaves that send people flying like rag dolls. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > If you talk to various characters it’s made clear that it’s a long term policy to not let Khajiits into cities. Ysolda in Whiterun talks about how mistrusted they are, for example. I thought it was funny when I ran into one of the caravans. The leader laments how the Nords see them as just thieves and drug smugglers. I trade with her, and the most noteworthy goods she has for sale are moon sugar and lockpicks. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/463 "2011-11-23T06:24:40Z")
**Max** , did your jump height increase over time as in Oblivion, or did it stay the same like in the Fallout series? I enjoyed the near-levitation ability I gained from high athletics/acrobatics in Oblivion, even if jumping over town walls looked a little goofy. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/464 "2011-11-23T14:45:58Z")
[QUOTE=Max the Immortal;14492161I thought it was funny when I ran into one of the caravans. The leader laments how the Nords see them as just thieves and drug smugglers. I trade with her, and the most noteworthy goods she has for sale are moon sugar and lockpicks. Heh.[/QUOTE] There’s a running feud between the Khajit and everyone else. They see Moon Sugar as a perfectly healthy diversion, a bit like hard liquor. Some people might not be able to handle it, but it’s fine for most. Everyone else sees it as the equivalent of crack cocaine. Of course, given how weird the Khajit are, it might be much less harmful to them. Of course, they’re not particular unpleasant folks. I’d say that the Khajit as a whole are kinder than most peoples of Tamriel. They seem quite happy under the Empire, avoid giant wars, and generally get along happily with everyone, barring the odd fight with the Bosmer on their doorstep. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/465 "2011-11-23T16:25:50Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > No, unfortunately. Though if you’re playing for the PC I’m sure there’ll be a mod to do that eventually. No need for a mod, you can use the console to get the character creation screen whenever you please. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/466 "2011-11-23T16:33:38Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > There’s a running feud between the Khajit and everyone else. They see Moon Sugar as a perfectly healthy diversion, a bit like hard liquor. Some people might not be able to handle it, but it’s fine for most. Everyone else sees it as the equivalent of crack cocaine. Of course, given how weird the Khajit are, it might be much less harmful to them. > > Of course, they’re not particular unpleasant folks. I’d say that the Khajit as a whole are kinder than most peoples of Tamriel. They seem quite happy under the Empire, avoid giant wars, and generally get along happily with everyone, barring the odd fight with the Bosmer on their doorstep. In other words: they’re hippies. Damn slackers. They should get jobs, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/467 "2011-11-23T17:02:33Z")
Fallout 3 had a plot point where you could change your appearance, not just your hairstyle. It’s really just a minor nitpick. I plan to take over the entire Empire, being dragon-born and all, so I decided to go with a regal look. Still it’d be fun to slap on some William Wallace blue war paint to go all Braveheart on some mobs once in awhile. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/468 "2011-11-23T17:04:52Z")
Fought my first Elder dragon. That’s a step up I found out. Not surprising, the frost and blood dragons had gotten pretty ho-hum by level 26 or so. ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/469 "2011-11-23T17:56:56Z")
I’m experiencing some “pausing” in my gameplay. I’m guessing it has something to do with the game loading something up ahead in my travels in the wilderness. I notice it as I am heading toward like an intesection, or place of interest - mainly right before some type of even happens. The game will pause for like 3-4 seconds and then continue (the music stays the same). I have found that I was able to reload a save game right before these “events”, and see a different outcome each time. I had randomly done a save while strolling along a path, and an event at the next intersection was two NPCs battling it out. They fought, the “fire elemental” won, I picked him off with a steel arrow and looted both bodies. Something screwed up and caused the game to crash when I looted the 2nd body and I had to reload. I loaded up my save game right before that intersection and was greeting by a different “event”. This time, an old orc was waiting for his death to come - I obliged and put him down with a good, honorable, death. After he was dead I had remorse and reloaded ☹ . It’s kind of neat in a way. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/470 "2011-11-23T18:39:45Z")
As with the Fallouts, sometimes I come back from a saved game to find that the enemies have been given a do-over on their spot checks. So suddenly my safe position is completely exposed. Occasionally, this kind of thing actually saves my ass – the NPCs have decided to run off in different directions or there’s a change in the order in which people appear around the corner. There’s this talk about Lydia dying. I have never seen anything permanently kill Lydia unless it was me. She goes prostrate and NPCs start ignoring her, and later she pops back up to tank again for a little while before getting put down. But, if I accidentally shoot her, either because she stepped in the way of my shot or because I panicked when I saw somebody coming at me, I’ll get a sneak attack bonus and she’ll die for keeps. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/471 "2011-11-23T18:41:51Z")
After a long period of distinguished service Lydia died for me, down in some rat caves against a necromancer. I’m fairly sure I didn’t accidentally kill her. ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/472 "2011-11-23T20:27:44Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > After a long period of distinguished service Lydia died for me, down in some rat caves against a necromancer. I’m fairly sure I didn’t accidentally kill her. Followers will still die from area-of-effect spells during their repose, regardless of who casts them. Considering that there are a limited number of followers available in the game, it certainly would be nice with a resurrect spell. They could even make it so you’d have to bond with the person via dialog first to prevent it from being exploited. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/473 "2011-11-23T20:53:14Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Of course, they’re not particular unpleasant folks. I’d say that the Khajit as a whole are kinder than most peoples of Tamriel. They seem quite happy under the Empire, avoid giant wars, and generally get along happily with everyone, barring the odd fight with the Bosmer on their doorstep. There are some exceptions. The character “Vasha” is a completely immoral murderer, and maybe rapist. > [@Telperion](#): > > Followers will still die from area-of-effect spells during their repose, regardless of who casts them. Considering that there are a limited number of followers available in the game, it certainly would be nice with a resurrect spell. They could even make it so you’d have to bond with the person via dialog first to prevent it from being exploited. 1. Push ~ 2) click body 3) type “resurrect” 4) Push Enter ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/474 "2011-11-23T22:30:17Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > 1. Push ~ 2) click body 3) type “resurrect” 4) Push Enter I was considering looking up the console command to resurrect an NPC, because near as I can tell Sigurd from Whiterun died for no reason and has been lying there for weeks, with nobody able to tell me what he’s doing there, though other NPCs occasionally are still shocked to notice him. I guess it’s a bug, like Walter from Fallout 3, who committed suicide on the walkways all the time. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/475 "2011-11-23T22:48:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I was considering looking up the console command to resurrect an NPC, because near as I can tell Sigurd from Whiterun died for no reason and has been lying there for weeks, with nobody able to tell me what he’s doing there, though other NPCs occasionally are still shocked to notice him. I guess it’s a bug, like Walter from Fallout 3, who committed suicide on the walkways all the time. My theory on that is Dragon attacks, If I missed the music as I was going into a building for a crafting session, then I figure in a city there is a good chance the dragon, and or a couple yokels got killed while I was busy. Because I have seen dragon corpses with bones that I hadn’t looted. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/476 "2011-11-23T22:53:57Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I was considering looking up the console command to resurrect an NPC, because near as I can tell Sigurd from Whiterun died for no reason and has been lying there for weeks, with nobody able to tell me what he’s doing there, though other NPCs occasionally are still shocked to notice him. I guess it’s a bug, like Walter from Fallout 3, who committed suicide on the walkways all the time. I didn’t even know you could do this, but I did a search on a particular quest for which I needed an item that I had sold to a merchant without realizing (normally it doesn’t let you take quest items out of your inventory, so it could be considered a bug in that regard). I found a forum post where someone had posted a very helpful console command that simply spawned the missing quest item in my inventory. Now, every time I start the game I get a warning “Steam was unable to sync your files for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim with the Steam Cloud”. Then it tells me that if I play the game, I may lose saved settings and/or progress. This really freaked me out the first time it came up, but I proceeded and everything seems to be OK. I’m fairly certain though that the warning is coming up due to that console command I executed, and now I feel like a dirty cheater even though I only used it to get back the bugged quest item for which I had no other recourse! Any ideas how to get rid of this message? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/477 "2011-11-23T23:02:53Z")
I’ve always assumed that the sync message had to do with their servers being busy. I also notice that when I get a crash to desktop out of nowhere in Skyrim, and also in Fallout: New Vegas, I can’t immediately get back into Steam, and I have suspected that I got dumped to desktop because I lost my connection to Steam. But this could just be my paranoia. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/478 "2011-11-24T01:11:58Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > I didn’t even know you could do this, but I did a search on a particular quest for which I needed an item that I had sold to a merchant without realizing (normally it doesn’t let you take quest items out of your inventory, so it could be considered a bug in that regard). I found a forum post where someone had posted a very helpful console command that simply spawned the missing quest item in my inventory. > > Now, every time I start the game I get a warning “Steam was unable to sync your files for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim with the Steam Cloud”. Then it tells me that if I play the game, I may lose saved settings and/or progress. This really freaked me out the first time it came up, but I proceeded and everything seems to be OK. I’m fairly certain though that the warning is coming up due to that console command I executed, and now I feel like a dirty cheater even though I only used it to get back the bugged quest item for which I had no other recourse! > > Any ideas how to get rid of this message? The Steam Cloud is where Steam stores your saved games, in case you game from different computers. (So your Skyrim save you made on your hypothetical laptop during a slow day at work will be available on your desktop back home.) I’ve been getting this message occasionally, too, since I’ve got a shaky connection. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/479 "2011-11-24T01:29:21Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > The Steam Cloud is where Steam stores your saved games, in case you game from different computers. (So your Skyrim save you made on your hypothetical laptop during a slow day at work will be available on your desktop back home.) I’ve been getting this message occasionally, too, since I’ve got a shaky connection. Well, I only play from one computer and my connection is rock-solid. I have had the game crash on me and quit out to the desktop a few times (usually on a load screen). But the reason I thought it had to do with the console inventory manipulation was because I never got that message before I did it, and then after I did it I get it every time I start the game (and the occasional crashes have been occurring throughout). I guess it’s pretty inconsequential since my saved games don’t appear compromised in any way, but it still bugs me. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/480 "2011-11-24T04:58:36Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > The Steam Cloud is where Steam stores your saved games, in case you game from different computers. (So your Skyrim save you made on your hypothetical laptop during a slow day at work will be available on your desktop back home.) I’ve been getting this message occasionally, too, since I’ve got a shaky connection. To expand on this. Your files are still stored on your harddrive. If you can’t sync with Steam Cloud, your game is still saved. You can turn off the sync option if you please. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=25)