# The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim post-release thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540 "2011-11-10T22:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1161 "2011-12-22T16:20:36Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Ulfrid, Jarl of the Stormcloaks, is said to have killed the high king with a shout. (I don’t know if he can absorb dragon souls and learn new shouts, though.) > > I didn’t do any of the stormcloak/Imperial War quest lines, so I don’t know if you have to face him… The Greybeards themselves are not DOHVAKIIINs and yet they seem pretty competent at the whole yelling thing, so presumably shoutin’ is just something anybody can learn who puts their mind to it. You just have a fast track to it because you can dragoncide your way to power instead of having to do some fastidious book learning, meditation, practice… Ha, if only such things existed. Fuck college, I’ll just go kill me some 'gators to learn advanced economics ! ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1162 "2011-12-22T16:28:58Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Ok. I need to find out: > > Is it properly pronounced ree-agents (three syllables), or ree-gents (two)? The former. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1163 "2011-12-22T17:04:12Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > You don’t need to let her go. As I mentioned above, “Erik the slayer” went up from level 20-25 to 40 while I was away. So, I guess you could part way with Lydia, wait until you gain one level, pick her up again, and I assume she will have caught up with your level. > > If you’re playing on PC, it’s even simpler : > > 1)Part way with Lydia > 2)Open the console (don’t know what the key is on an english keyboard, sorry) > 3)Click on Lydia > 4)Type “disable” and enter > 5)Type “enable” and enter > 6)Close the console > 7)Re-hire Lydia > > She should have been updated to your level > > For the record, the console command to know the level of a NPC is “getlevel” (after clicking on him. If he’s not around, you need his ID number) Does this effect their inventory? Should I clean them out before doing these commands? ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1164 "2011-12-22T17:16:21Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > The former. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1165 "2011-12-22T17:18:00Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > The Greybeards themselves are not DOHVAKIIINs and yet they seem pretty competent at the whole yelling thing, so presumably shoutin’ is just something anybody can learn who puts their mind to it. You just have a fast track to it because you can dragoncide your way to power instead of having to do some fastidious book learning, meditation, practice… > > Ha, if only such things existed. Fuck college, I’ll just go kill me some 'gators to learn advanced economics ! Right. In the audio/dialog during the main quest where you go to High Hrothgar the first time, Angier mentions that they spend decades learning a shout. Ulfrid doesn’t look that old. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1166 "2011-12-22T17:27:10Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Ulfrid, Jarl of the Stormcloaks, is said to have killed the high king with a shout. (I don’t know if he can absorb dragon souls and learn new shouts, though.) > > I didn’t do any of the stormcloak/Imperial War quest lines, so I don’t know if you have to face him… Well, he knocked him down with a shout (probably Fus) and then stabbed him in the heart… but Ulfric isn’t Dragonborn, just someone who studied a bit of the Voice. The line of the Septims, on the other hand, were Dragonborn. That makes you their rightful heir as you’re the only known Dragonborn left. Screw the Imperials and the Stormcloaks, I want my wenches damnit. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1167 "2011-12-22T18:07:47Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Saw [this](http://blog.fileplanet.com/2011/12/19/monday-mod-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-skyui/) new mod on Fileplanet and thought folks might want to check it out. It seems to be a UI mod for PCs, and it looks pretty good. > > -XT What seems lacking is a value/weight sorting tool, which exists in the mod I’m currently using (QD inventory, on nexus). Very useful to pick up on corpses, in chests, etc..only what is worth being carried around. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1168 "2011-12-22T18:10:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > A word of (mild) caution; it appears to require another mod called " Skyrim Script Extender Utility’ to work properly (not unusual, a lot of Oblivion mods needed something called a script extender too). The link to that is on the page. Yeah, I’d know about this script extender. I’m interested in a mod thet requires it (can’t remember of it’s the mod changing the walking/running/horseback speed, or the mod changing the flow of time (slower when you’re inside, quicker outside). Is there any drawback using it? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1169 "2011-12-22T18:14:19Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Does this effect their inventory? Should I clean them out before doing these commands? I should have mentioned that, yes. In fact, I don’t know for sure, but I always removed everything they had before doing that, just to be on the safe side. Also saved the game before, still just in case. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1170 "2011-12-22T19:04:12Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Great game. > > I bought my first house. It has a couple of containers in it, so I’ve stored some ingredients and miscellaneous items in them. When I came back to it some (not all) of the items where listed in red, I take it this isn’t good. I.E. Soul Gems x24 Any idea what this means ? > > My apologies for not going through the 22 previous pages to see if this has been discussed already. Someone helpfully told me somewhere in this thread: if you pick up the red soul gems one by one, eventually it will turn the normal color. So now the number you took are the stolen ones, and the rest remain in the container. In other words, you pick up stolen items before legit ones in a stack. I just learned about HOME/END/PG UP/PG DOWN for selling/picking up/dropping multiple items. Kinda helpful. > [@clairobscur](#): > > 2)Open the console (don’t know what the key is on an english keyboard, sorry) Not faux amis here, it’s “console,” too. The key is referred to as ~, which is technically pushing `, as ~ requires shift, but everybody refers to the tilde. It is left of the 1 key. > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > As you go through the Guild questline, you get more and more fences, but the game doesn’t tell you who they are. Yes, their identities make all kinds of sense, but usually you can’t trade with them beforehand. Unless you just happen to go back by one of them, you’ll never know they’re actually a shopkeeper at all, let alone a fence. The book “Shadowmarks” describes a mark for fences, but I’ve never really paid attention in game. Still, a useful book to have, especially the “good loot here” and “this house is empty” ones. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > Well, he knocked him down with a shout (probably Fus) and then stabbed him in the heart… but Ulfric isn’t Dragonborn, just someone who studied a bit of the Voice. The line of the Septims, on the other hand, were Dragonborn. That makes you their rightful heir as you’re the only known Dragonborn left. I think the distinction is: (aside from Dragonborn being better at Thu’um) when the town guard or even a Greybeard kills a dragon, it will remain dead for some time or maybe even a very long time. But the Dragonborn are the only ones to absorb the souls of dragons and perma-kill them. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1171 "2011-12-22T20:13:40Z")
Well, that and as Dragonborn you can learn Shouts instinctively. Ulfric - and the Greybeards - needed training. You can also light the Dragonfires in theory, and might in effect have a claim on the Imperial throne. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1172 "2011-12-22T21:56:13Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > See, the way I read it says that you have to be level 15 to get the book. Either way, I should probably level up to 15 to ensure I can get it done. I have the “Discerning The Mundane” quest right now. It’s moot. After clearing out a dungeon, suddenly dragon. I went through all my health potions and had to level up to get more health to kill it. I had a few levels saved up. I’m at 23 now. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1173 "2011-12-22T22:53:53Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Here is my wish list for mods: > > 1. A sortable favorites menu so that weapons, spells, shouts and potions are each under their own rubric; > 2. A hotkey mod that lets you have more hotkeys; there was a mod like this for Oblivion that let you have 24 hotkeys: regular 1-8, then shift + 1-8 and finally ctrl + 1-8; > 3. Better looking light armor; > 4. A wizard’s tower type stronghold All I want for Christmas is a talking mudcrab vendor (though a daily limit of 10,000 might be a bit low; I’m thinking more like a million). ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1174 "2011-12-23T00:33:52Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Does this effect their inventory? Should I clean them out before doing these commands? I think it can; better safe than sorry. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1175 "2011-12-23T01:50:54Z")
> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#): > > All I want for Christmas is a talking mudcrab vendor (though a daily limit of 10,000 might be a bit low; I’m thinking more like a million). I want Creeper the vending scamp. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1176 "2011-12-23T02:58:39Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > i want creeper the vending scamp. _ergh!_ _ergh!_ _ergh!_ ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1177 "2011-12-23T04:35:03Z")
> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#): > > 1. A way to hitch my horse to a tree when out in the wilderness. Worthless beast. I’m thinking of casting paralyze to keep it around while I’m checking something out. > 2. A way to silence the Alchemy vendor in Whiterun while I’m using her Alchemy table. “I sell, potions, spells and ingredients for all your needs.” Shaddap! I’m working here, lady. Buy a house, your pauper ! Anyway: 7. Spell duration icons. Seriously, why did they get rid of those ? I know they wanted a sleek UI with as little as possible on the screen, but people who play in first person have zero ways to know whether their buffs are still active, and no matter which view you play in no way to know whether their muffle spell or armour spell or invisibility spell or whatnot is juuust about to break without delving three menus deep. Very annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1178 "2011-12-23T04:49:47Z")
Oxygen bar when swimming would be nice, too. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1179 "2011-12-23T04:53:41Z")
Anybody know, if you’ve got Shadowmere and get off, where he/she goes back to? I’d assume the stables by whatever city your house is in, but I’ve got no clue and the wikis are no help. Ideas? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1180 "2011-12-23T05:13:59Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Anybody know, if you’ve got Shadowmere and get off, where he/she goes back to? I’d assume the stables by whatever city your house is in, but I’ve got no clue and the wikis are no help. Ideas? Fast travel somewhere and s/he should be back. If that doesn’t work, then maybe you got on another horse since and “lost” SM. Of course, I permanently lost Shadowmere in Oblivion, so I dunno. In/near the stables if you fast travel to a city. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=60)