# The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim post-release thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540 "2011-11-10T22:09:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1621 "2012-02-20T19:14:45Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> There’s a mod on Steam that allows you to use the useless tool objects as weapons- they do damage, and can be enchanted. My next run-through will be as The Mad Chef of Skyrim.

Roleplay opportunity, minor DB spoilers:

You know how Cicero murdered a jester, then went crazy and took on his personality? You could do the storyline at least up to the Gourmand quest, then take up the Chef’s knife, hat, and apron there. Also get lycanthropy and Namira’s Ring for inventive uses of “found” food. If there isn’t already, hopefully there will be a better cooking mod.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1622 "2012-02-20T19:25:20Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I’m just amusing myself, thinking about one of your characters, standing over the still warm corpse of a Whiterun Guard, saying, “Dagnabbit, I promised myself that I wouldn’t do this anymore.”

“I can stop any time I want to!”

Guard: “Why, hello there Dragonb-”

_\<stab\>_

“…Damn.”

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1623 "2012-02-20T19:27:53Z")

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“Oh, fudge.”

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1624 "2012-02-20T21:21:30Z")

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I turned the difficulty down in the beginning because it took me at least three tries to get out of Helgen. At level 30, things had become boringly easy, especially with a follower. I decided to go it alone. At the same time, I turned up the difficulty to Master. I had to get my follower again. It’s interesting again.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1625 "2012-02-20T21:33:58Z")

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Might need to up the difficulty myself. Currently I’m just murdering any imperials that I see (except the ones that I can’t kill). Doing some side quests and slowly making my way through the final quest. It’s still fun but getting a bit easy as I’m now level 42.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1626 "2012-02-24T20:23:47Z")

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Sorry for not reading the whole thread but i just got this to tie me over until D3/GW2 and i need a list of the current “must have” mods for the PC please.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1627 "2012-02-24T21:49:39Z")

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I like the Quality World Map with Roads, invisible helmets, and glowing ores.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1628 "2012-02-25T09:02:48Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Sorry for not reading the whole thread but i just got this to tie me over until D3/GW2 and i need a list of the current “must have” mods for the PC please.

SkyUI - makes navigating the menus so much less of a chore.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1629 "2012-02-25T18:27:42Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I like the Quality World Map with Roads, invisible helmets, and glowing ores.

Where do you get the Quality World Map? Nexus?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1630 "2012-02-25T18:53:14Z")

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I had a fox attack me last night for no apparent reason. Wasn’t casting anything, no AoE effects, just trotting through the woods when I hear the “munch munch” sound. I look down and there’s a fox gnawing on my leg doing minimal damage. Incinerated it and carried on my way.

Does Resist Magic work against all spell effects or only select non-elemental effects flagged as “Magic”? Because I can’t even think of any non-elemental spell damage effects in the game.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1631 "2012-02-25T19:09:38Z")

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I started a second character. My first character was a pure mage, so I didn’t need armor/weapons, therefore I didn’t use crafting much with her, except for enchanting. It’s like a different game as a two-handed/archer type. Except for Bleak Falls Barrow, I don’t think I’ve been to any of the same dungeons/ruins/caves as my first character with my second. Plus, I just became a werewolf.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1632 "2012-02-25T19:24:53Z")

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Can you use SkyUI if you launch through Steam, or do you still have to use skse\_loader.exe?

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**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1633 "2012-02-25T19:58:59Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Can you use SkyUI if you launch through Steam, or do you still have to use skse\_loader.exe?

If you launch through Steam, it throws an error message telling you it won’t work properly, although the only bug I have seen is that container selection is sometimes weird.

Launching through skse\_loader.exe works just fine, though.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1634 "2012-02-25T20:06:34Z")

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> [@Brainiac4](#):
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> If you launch through Steam, it throws an error message telling you it won’t work properly, although the only bug I have seen is that container selection is sometimes weird.
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> Launching through skse\_loader.exe works just fine, though.

Launching through Steam means the filter doesn’t work, actually (I just tried it. I can’t type in the filter field).

Weirdly, I cannot launch through skse\_loader.exe. It keeps telling me I don’t have the latest version of Skyrim. I’m not sure how that’s possible, since I just launched through Steam and one would think that would keep everything up to date.

Very, very odd.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1635 "2012-02-25T21:32:22Z")

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I don’t have access to Steam right now, you can pick the option that’s along the lines of “Add a non-Steam game” and point to the SKSE loader. It will add a separate entry. Unfortunately, not UI is included for Steam Workshop, etc. so you need to go through your old Skyrim entry.

Also, update SKSE if you get that error?

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1636 "2012-02-26T03:18:15Z")

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Maybe in future it would be nice if the discussion of mods for games like this got its own thread as it really is a big topic, and one that’s exclusive to PC players.

Finished off my mage the other day and started my stealth character. Well, didn’t finish the main quest or anything, but did all the stuff I wanted. I got the idea that, for example, Destruction was underpowered, but there I had a pretty easy time of it.

Stealth is turning out a little tedious as I expected. If all else fails my follower will either distract them while I run away or kick a bunch of asses for me. Fairly uncommon that I have to pull the wait-here-while-I-do-some-whittling-you-mule trick. However, if the follower jumps out in front of a poisoned arrow for triple damage, bummer, maybe gotta get a new one. I’m level 11 and on my third one.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1637 "2012-03-01T04:45:36Z")

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Just how often can you get the quest for the Helm of Winterhold, anyway? I’ve retrieved it about 4 times already, always in a different dungeon.

Ah, I see. [I’m apparently stuck in a loop](http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dungeon_Delving_(Jarl_-_Caves)#Bugs). I shall have to use the console to break free of it, I guess. On the other hand, it’s good for 1500 septims each time.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1638 "2012-03-01T05:33:08Z")

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By the way, what does upping the difficulty level actually do? I could test it but I’m at work so it’ll be faster to just ask y’all.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1639 "2012-03-01T06:14:27Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> By the way, what does upping the difficulty level actually do? I could test it but I’m at work so it’ll be faster to just ask y’all.

Enemies have more health, more enemies, break more lockpicks, take more damage, etc. I tried playing on Master for awhile, I’m now on Expert. It would take me days and a million deaths just to get through one dungeon on Master. Expert is hard but not impossible for me.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1640 "2012-03-01T06:45:40Z")

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I kind of regret playing it through on Adept first, since most of the battles were completely trivial once I had my enchanted dragonscale armor that gave me +150% to 1h damage, including the final ones in the main storyline. Still died a bunch, mostly at the start but sometimes when I just could not bother to take the enemies seriously. Now playing on Expert but I doubt I will do the main storyline again, just fooling around as a cat assassin stormcloak. Even on Expert using a companion makes the game too easy for me, but I never like them much in Bethesda’s games anyways so it’s no big loss.

It’s just hard to know before you actually play the game whether the default difficulty is the perfect one for me or if I have to go harder or even easier.

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