# The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim post-release thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540 "2011-11-10T22:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1661 "2012-03-12T01:37:10Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I don’t think two enchantments really counteract each other. Have you worked on smithing? “Arcane Blacksmith” is pretty essential. Without it, you can enchant OR temper an item, not both. I have 100 in Smithing, and all the perks. > [@Jophiel](#): > > There shouldn’t be any issue to dual-enchanting a sword with multiple effects. I regularly enchant daggers with max Paralyze and max Banish (since those add the most value). I’d try the enchantment using a minor stone and junk weapon and see if it takes – might be the modded weapon. Nothing about it in the mod description. Have to see if I have a “minor weapon” anymore, but it’s easy enough to make one. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1662 "2012-03-18T05:39:28Z")
I just picked up Skyrim for the first time since December, and my game is dancing with pixels and water effects show in the road, etc. I’ve tried with earlier saves, with the same results. Has anyone had this occur after updating AMD Radeon drivers (I just did a Catalyst update a week or so ago)? ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1663 "2012-03-18T07:10:50Z")
It turns out there was a widespread problem with the newest drivers. If anyone is thinking of updating Radeon drivers, [read this first](http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1359165-having-graphics-issues-lately-ati-card/). ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1664 "2012-03-18T18:08:07Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > It turns out there was a widespread problem with the newest drivers. If anyone is thinking of updating Radeon drivers, [read this first](http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1359165-having-graphics-issues-lately-ati-card/). I have been burned so many times with so many games by ATI drivers that unless a game won’t work at all, I don’t touch them. ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1665 "2012-03-20T22:11:40Z")
So, 1.5 patch launched and everything was working fine except things seemed a bit easy … then I noticed my bow was listed as 172 damage instead of the old 80-90 something in the inventory (I have a lot of +archery gear and +80% from perks). No mention in the patch notes about changing bow damage, and doubling it would be silly anyways. Anybody else seeing something like this? Could be my mods of course. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1666 "2012-03-20T22:59:14Z")
No, but my mage suddenly got kill animations. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1667 "2012-03-20T23:44:41Z")
Hmm. I haven’t loaded the game in a couple of days, so I haven’t gotten the new stuff. Sounds interesting. Meantime, even though I haven’t finished the game with my original build, I created a new one because I wanted to redo my perks and stuff. Right now I’m avoiding the Dragon Rising quest, which means if I get to a Word Wall, there’s no dragon there. I’m kinda wondering what might happen if I hit every non-quest-locked Wall I can before completing Dragon Rising. Some of those walls have Dragon Priests at them with masks; I don’t know if they’ll be there if I get to the Wall before starting the main quest, and I haven’t been able to figure out search terms that might bring me the answer (assuming anyone else has tried this and posted about it). ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1668 "2012-03-20T23:59:33Z")
I have no sure proof, but looking at several pages suggests that the Priests may be present but not the dragons. IIRC, the dragon may be replaced with other enemie(s) such as bandits. The easiest place to test this is at Shearpoint, an outdoor wall. Also, how do I check patch notes/current version in Steam? Just in the news? Last I have is 1.5 BETA, which is probably the same but not the most helpful. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1669 "2012-03-21T05:34:58Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I have no sure proof, but looking at several pages suggests that the Priests may be present but not the dragons. IIRC, the dragon may be replaced with other enemie(s) such as bandits. The easiest place to test this is at Shearpoint, an outdoor wall. > > Also, how do I check patch notes/current version in Steam? Just in the news? Last I have is 1.5 BETA, which is probably the same but not the most helpful. I happened to notice a tiny system message in the lower right desktop that Steam had completed updating Skyrim. Wanting to verify which update, I found out that if you go to the Steam folder in the program files, then SteamApps, Common, Skyrim, then TESV.exe, right click on that, Properties, you can verify the version on the Details tab. I was worried that I had a beta update, which I don’t want, but I think this one is the real deal because it was updated today. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1670 "2012-03-21T06:57:31Z")
That works. I also see you can completely load a game, hit ESC, and it shows your vision too. Both a bit unwieldly methods. You have to opt into beta. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1671 "2012-03-24T14:33:26Z")
I know I knew that voice. Ulfric Stormcloak is Buliwyf as played by Vladimir Kulich in The 13th Warrior. One of my favorite films. No wonder I sided with them in the game. Lo, there do I see my father. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1672 "2012-03-24T17:54:15Z")
Speaking of Vladimir, this is a most awesome pic of him: [Vladimir Kulich](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm64926208/nm0474520) ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1673 "2012-03-24T19:22:51Z")
I am now level 20, with what could best be described as a split between a fighter and a mage. I don’t know if it’s because I have light armor, or what, but I am getting my ass kicked by Cave Bears, those flipping big cats, and my random encounters have a good chance of killing me. On the upside, I have found out that if you return to a fort or whatever that you cleared out earlier as part of a non-quest encounter, than they will often refill themselves with bad guys and loot… ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1674 "2012-03-24T19:28:37Z")
> [@Tristan](#): > > I don’t know if it’s because I have light armor, or what, but I am getting my ass kicked by Cave Bears, those flipping big cats, and my random encounters have a good chance of killing me. I always found this funny - I’d be killing dragons left and right, slaughtering entire dungeons full of mages and vampires, destroying whole anti-werewolf cults and storming fortresses … and then some overgrown cat or angry bear just destroys me in 3 seconds. Don’t even get me started on Bandit Chiefs, though at least you don’t run into them out in the wilderness. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1675 "2012-03-25T00:31:16Z")
Zenimax (the company that owns Bethesda) have [trademarked](http://www.techdigest.tv/2012/03/dawnguard_to_be.html) the name “Dawnguard” in the downloadable software category, leading to speculation that this could be the first DLC for Skyrim (the first clue we got that TESV would be set in its titular province was through trademarks). The name is pretty vague though, could refer to the Mythic Dawn, the evil cultists from Oblivion. Could also be a reference to the Daedra Azura, who is known as Queen of the Dawn and Dusk - a visit to another Daedric Realm (hers is Moonshadow, although the Shivering Isles were known as the Madhouses before the Oblivion expansion so don’t let the name put you off). May also be a reference to Meridia, her quest Break of Dawn gives you the weapon Dawnbreaker (surprisingly) or something to do with the city of Dawnstar. The name doesn’t give us much to go on, but those are my best guesses (i.e., everytime the word “Dawn” is mentioned in TES lore…there’s also the Akaviri sword Dawnfang). Of course, it could be completely unrelated. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1676 "2012-03-25T12:36:31Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Speaking of Vladimir, this is a most awesome pic of him: [Vladimir Kulich](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm64926208/nm0474520) It’s like looking in a mirror. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1677 "2012-03-26T13:52:44Z")
I’m seriously considering buying this today for PC. I also have a PS3. Any convincing reason _not_ to get it for PC (my preferred platform for most games, especially first person ones) and get it for Playstation instead? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1678 "2012-03-26T14:54:59Z")
You want it on PC for the mods. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1679 "2012-03-26T16:43:11Z")
I spend too much time sitting at a computer for work and such, that I can’t bring myself to do more than casually game on one. That being said, the load screens seem to take for ever and a damn day on the PS3, especially if you’re a hoarder with ADD like I am and you have to keep going back into your house over and over to get that other thingy-majig from your Chest 'o Crap. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540/1680 "2012-03-26T22:40:06Z")
Holy shit! This game is awesome! Goodbye sleep! Goodbye friends! I will emerge eventually. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=83) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-post-release-thread/602540.md?page=85)