# The election is over, so drop it!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 27, 2001, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272 "2001-08-27T02:27:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/21 "2001-08-27T03:25:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tedster \*  
> Personally, disqualifying 41% of overseas military ballots doesn’t sound like anyone on the Gore side was trying to ‘Count all the votes’ either.

Probably wouldn’t have mattered. The military are notoriously absent when it comes to actually voting. Of course, I voted in every election for which I was eligible–even when on Active Duty.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/22 "2001-08-27T03:41:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gorewonfla \*  
> That was because they were postmarked past the date they were due, and therefore could’ve been fraudulent and/or tainted. But as I’ve reiterated, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HATING ME! \*\*

Of course the ballots cast by people too stupid to double check their ballots, which were then handled repeatedly, would be much less likely to be counted improperly…uh huh. But, despite your championing a dead cause, I haven’t found any reason to hate you. If you set my dog on fire or something I could probably muster up some hate, but based merely on political leanings? I’d have to hate a good number of people who whine and belly-ache about the election. I’m just not that demonstrative, emotionally.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/23 "2001-08-27T03:45:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gorewonfla \*  
> \*\*But as I’ve reiterated, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HATING ME! \*\*

Bit defensive, eh?

The whole FL/FLA thing was a joke.

And I don’t hate you, I just want everyone to shut up about fucking Florida, butterfly ballots, polls, Gore, everything. I’m sick to fucking death of it, and I’m also sick of Republican-baiting.

I don’t care if it was a legitimate question you posted back in IMHO, alright?

I don’t hate you, alright, but you do bug the hell out of me.  
Truthfully, I just hate self-righteousness in any form, no matter who says it. In fact, I’m irritating myself right now.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/24 "2001-08-27T03:54:52Z")

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If you want to hate his thread, go ahead. If you want to hate his SN, go ahead. To me, it’s not that big of a deal. “Anal scurvy” creeps me out a hell of a lot more than “gorewonfla.” But you have the right to your opinion. Knock yourself out.

But when you say things like “And stop bitching about the Supreme Court decision as if you were Inspector fucking Renault.”  
and “Look you whinging partisan assholes, shut up about the fucking Florida election already!”

I say fuck that. Fuck that, I say. I think we may not have done enough talking about it. Oh sure, we pretty much had diarrhea of the keyboards back in Nov and Dec, but when the election was finally over, we dried up faster the Sahara on a hot day. It’s no longer in the news…it can’t be important anymore can it? WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM and maybe the only way to get people’s attention is to shout that out. It won’t go away because we stick our fingers in our ears and shout “It’s been 8 months, let it go already.” I don’t give a shit about who won, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM.

“He may have won, but he damn well won’t become president!”

And there’s a major problem right there. It’s trouble I tell you. Trouble, that starts with T and that rhymes with E and that stands for electoral college.

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**Author:** ![gorewonfla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/da6949/32.png) [@gorewonfla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gorewonfla)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/25 "2001-08-27T03:56:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\* Truthfully, I just hate self-righteousness in any form, no matter who says it. \*\*

Finally, something we can agree on. Listen, the reason why I chose my handle was that I’m boring. My life is pretty much taken up by politics. I could’ve chosen something like Democrats Rule or Al Gore Fan, but I was still a bit steamed (I registered in April, I finally realized I should get over it and focusing on winning it back in 2004). Also, this was the first thread in which I said ANYTHING relating to election 2000. My handle is pretty much what got everyone riled up, save the thread you mention. I’m sure that Nov-Dec this place was like a hailstorm of partisan fury, and this is my first venture into that. As for the thread that got you so riled up, it’s pretty interesting. You learn about how politics factors into relationships. My favorite morsel was “for the sheer joy of sex, liberals can’t be beat.” I said the thing about hating me jokingly. If anyone hates someone merely for political beliefs they have problems. So I’m burying the hatchet here while I’m sure about 3 simulposts have accrued saying I’m horrible. I’m going to stop talking about election 2000 as of this minute.

PS Why don’t I drop my handle, you ask? I’ve already accrued 153 posts, I don’t want to lose them.

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**Author:** ![Tedster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@Tedster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tedster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/26 "2001-08-27T04:01:54Z")

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That was because they were postmarked past the date they were due, and therefore could’ve been fraudulent and/or tainted. But as I’ve reiterated, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HATING ME! \*\*  
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No, the question wasn’t about ‘postmarked past the date they were due’ at all. Good try, though. It was about absentee ballots that didn’t have a postmark at all.  
If you’ve served in the military, you’ll undoubtedly know that stamps and postmarks aren’t required in a combat zone. Hell, you can write a letter on a cardboard box and it will get home.

No, it was clearly about disqualifying military absentee ballots that were largely votes for G.W. Bush.

After the midnight deadline for receiving overseas ballots passed, officials in every Florida county began counting the votes. The Gore lawyers eventually protested 41% of the military ballots.

But determining “voter intent” by divining that a Buchanan vote is really a Gore vote is okay, of course.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/27 "2001-08-27T04:05:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gorewonfla \*  
> \*\*I’m going to stop talking about election 2000 as of this minute.
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> PS Why don’t I drop my handle, you ask? I’ve already accrued 153 posts, I don’t want to lose them. \*\*

I don’t care about the handle, really, I just needed a lame excuse to publicly state how sick I was of hearing about ‘Gore this’ or ‘Bush that’ or ‘Nader run over by a Corvair’ or ‘recount this’.

Frankly, when I was watching the 2000 circus I couldn’t stop thinking “If it had been McCain, this wouldn’t be happening.”

Then again, it was almost worth it for the _subliminable rats_.

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/28 "2001-08-27T04:31:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gorewonfla \*  
> \*\*PS Why don’t I drop my handle, you ask? I’ve already accrued 153 posts, I don’t want to lose them. \*\*

You can change your handle without losing your post cost. I’ve done that myself.

Just send a polite e-mail to **TubaDiva**. Promise her chocolate if you feel it may help speed things up.

Just remember that by changing your SDMB handle, you might stop pissing off **Michael Ellis** , but you may run into the blind rage of [those who hate Dopers who change their nick](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83650).

I guess that means you really [can’t please everyone](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=82863).

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/29 "2001-08-27T05:01:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gorewonfla \*  
> \*\*PS Why don’t I drop my handle, you ask? I’ve already accrued 153 posts, I don’t want to lose them. \*\*

As was said, you can change your name without fear of losing your posts. Your posts are tied to your personal userid - yours is 14284, in case you wondered.

Regardless of what sort of person you are, and regardless of your politics, your handle is somewhat inflammatory. Just as inflammatory as “IWuvGW” or “PerotRulz”. It colors the way people look at you before they even read the first word of your posts. You should consider changing it, or else it will, IMO, be a handicap towards getting your points across to others.

When people see my handle, “Anthracite”, they think “coal”. Which is exactly what I want them to think. When they see a handle that is politically charged, they will carry either a positive or a negative bias with their comprehension when reading your works.

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**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/30 "2001-08-27T05:13:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\*Look you whinging partisan assholes, shut up about the fucking Florida election already! And shut up about Gore winning, too. He may have won, but he damn well won’t become president!
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> And stop bitching about the Supreme Court decision as if you were Inspector fucking Renault.
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> “I’m shocked, shocked, to find politics in the Supreme Court.”
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> Guess what: it’s over. Bush, for better or worse is the President, and no amount of your whiny dribblings will change that.
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> And **gorewonfla** , post another dumbass thread like [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83753) again and I’ll do to you whatever nature did to make Warren Christopher look like a fucking Evil Dead monster.
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> And I’d say the same things if the situations were reversed. \*\*

Welcome to America. I can talk about what I want as long as I want, and if you don’t like me saying and writing and thinking what I want, then that is just too bad for you.

It is no accident that you boy has repeatedly stated in public that he thinks it would be swell to be a dictator, that he seeks to tear up half a dozen legally binding treaties without any votes. Bush is an illiterate, drunken, usurper.

You fascists talk a lot, but you make no sense.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/31 "2001-08-27T05:21:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DPWhite \*  
> \*\*Welcome to America. I can talk about what I want as long as I want, and if you don’t like me saying and writing and thinking what I want, then that is just too bad for you.
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> It is no accident that you boy has repeatedly stated in public that he thinks it would be swell to be a dictator, that he seeks to tear up half a dozen legally binding treaties without any votes. Bush is an illiterate, drunken, usurper.
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> You fascists talk a lot, but you make no sense. \*\*

What the fuck did he usurp? This isn’t a fucking monarchy, dipshit!

And don’t you dare call me a fascist either, because you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/32 "2001-08-27T05:25:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> **…and no amount of your whiny dribblings will change that.**

My sentiments exactly.

It bugs me no end listening to Rush Limbaugh and his conservative crony ilk babble on about Clin…

Ummm. Sorry.

Carry on!

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/33 "2001-08-27T05:36:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> > **…and no amount of your whiny dribblings will change that.**
> 
> It bugs me no end listening to Rush Limbaugh and his conservative crony ilk babble on about Clin…\*\*

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/34 "2001-08-27T05:54:10Z")

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_ **And the Godwin Award goes to…** _

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**Author:** ![panzermanpanzerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9bcb4/32.png) [@panzermanpanzerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panzermanpanzerman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/35 "2001-08-27T05:56:52Z")

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gorewonfla: \<\<That was because they [contested military ballots in question] were postmarked past the date they were due\>\>

False. Check your facts.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/36 "2001-08-27T06:43:29Z")

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I just… \<chokes up\> I just want y’all to know how \* proud \* I am!

Fight on, my liberal brethren, fight on!

stoid

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/37 "2001-08-27T07:24:24Z")

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Let’s argue about who should’ve won last years Superbowl. Better yet, let’s argue about whether roman senator elections were fair. Better yet, let’s argue about whether dinosaurs should’ve become extinct.

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**Author:** ![curiousgeorgeordeadcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@curiousgeorgeordeadcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curiousgeorgeordeadcat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/38 "2001-08-27T07:46:43Z")

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Tedster, you claim Gore lawyers contested 41% of the  
absentee ballots. Do you have a source?

According to this, Gore lawyers did not contest absentee  
ballots, although Bush lawyers did:

[http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?template=opinion\_a&slug=jncp25](http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?template=opinion_a&slug=jncp25)

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**Author:** ![sdarr2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sdarr2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdarr2002)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/39 "2001-08-27T07:47:41Z")

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i wish i could remember where i read this, who wrote it or why it stuck in my mind for all these years, but here goes  
the election now is over,  
and recorded in the books.  
so let’s forgive the harsh words,  
and all those dirty looks.  
let bygones be bygones,  
it’s all now in the past.  
i will hug your elephant,  
and you can kiss my ass.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-election-is-over-so-drop-it/78272/40 "2001-08-27T08:06:53Z")

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Sigh.

And people say _I_ get too caught up in stuff when I say that a Star Destroyer could beat the Enterprise…

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