# The elephant in the room \[Christie's keynote speech\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 29, 2012, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018 "2012-08-29T07:54:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/21 "2012-08-29T23:48:48Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, the 20th Century was “The American Century,” when the U.S. became the world’s leading superpower. Neocons want another – see the [Project for a New American Century](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_a_New_American_Century) (now defunct . . . or is it? [dramatic music]).

Ahhh.. so that explains why I didn’t hear the dog whistle.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/22 "2012-08-30T00:20:12Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> That’s an accurate assessment of the reaction within the convention site of any political convention nowadays.

Not quite so much this time, though; with the Ronulans trying to start their own counter-echo.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/23 "2012-08-30T01:38:39Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Not quite so much this time, though; with the Ronulans trying to start their own counter-echo.

Ronulans always fail. They get suckered by Paul taking them for a ride and raking in the dough while doing practically nothing to actually get elected. I suppose now that Ron is going to step down (almost certainly; he’ll be 81 by the next Presidential election cycle, assuming he lives that long) the only question is whether Rand Paul is going to step up and take his father’s place at the money trough.

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/24 "2012-08-30T02:31:49Z")

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Anne Romney: “Tonight, I want to talk about love.”

Chris Christie: “We’ve become paralyzed by our desire to be loved.”

Hmmm…In the reaction shots during Christie’s speech, Mitt looked like he was smelling something bad, as if he noticed that the speech was more about Christie than ol’ What’s-his-name.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> Echo chamber echoes.

Like Christie’s speech: “I…I…me…me…New Jersey…New Jersey…me…me…I…I…”

When it was over, I expected to hear, “This message brought to you by the Christie 2016 committee.”

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/25 "2012-08-30T02:38:06Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> Like Christie’s speech: “I…I…me…me…New Jersey…New Jersey…me…me…I…I…”
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> When it was over, I expected to hear, “This message brought to you by the Christie 2016 committee.”

“Today (today today) I consider myself (myself myself) the luckiest likely candidate (candidate candidate) for the 2016 race…”

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/26 "2012-08-30T17:26:15Z")

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😃

Chris Christie, the Irony Man. For all his talk of respect, he showed precious little to Romney. I got the impression that he’s written off a Romney win so he might as well start looking four years ahead.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/27 "2012-09-04T16:01:19Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> 😃
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> Chris Christie, the Irony Man. For all his talk of respect, he showed precious little to Romney. I got the impression that he’s written off a Romney win so he might as well start looking four years ahead.

There’s a lot of people at the convention that felt that way. It seemed like half the speakers were really just trying to position themselves for 2012.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/28 "2012-09-04T17:13:25Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> Anne Romney: “Tonight, I want to talk about love.”
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> Chris Christie: “We’ve become paralyzed by our desire to be loved.”
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> Hmmm…In the reaction shots during Christie’s speech, Mitt looked like he was smelling something bad, as if he noticed that the speech was more about Christie than ol’ What’s-his-name.
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> Like Christie’s speech: “I…I…me…me…New Jersey…New Jersey…me…me…I…I…”
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> When it was over, I expected to hear, “This message brought to you by the Christie 2016 committee.”

“I’m Chris Christie and I approve of this message.”

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/29 "2012-09-04T17:20:54Z")

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[Tom Tomorrow](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/03/1126573/-Crazy-never-sleeps) has it nailed. See 2nd panel, 2nd row… “Me me me me me me me me me me me Oh and vote for what’s his name.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/30 "2012-09-04T17:45:54Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> :rolleyes: Fattest preacher there ever will be.

Martin Luther was pretty hefty . . .

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/31 "2012-09-04T18:09:51Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Didn’t catch it, but just saw Rachel Maddow calling it disappointing and egotistical, while Chris Matthews felt it was a barnburner. Which was it?

It depends on what one assumes the purpose of the speech to be:

**Romney 2012 Speech:** Disappointing and egotistical

**Christie 2016 Speech:** Barnburner

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/32 "2012-09-04T18:13:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Martin Luther was pretty hefty . . .

He will always be Christie The Hutt to me.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/33 "2012-09-04T18:13:46Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Someone (forget who) on MSNBC this morning pointed out that the key from Christie’s speech was “will.” As in “We will tell you the truth.”
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> And it’s true. Someday, I’m sure, the Republicans will tell us the truth. Just not anytime soon.

Apparently they take the Lee Atwater approach of deathbed confession, thus allowing them to benefit from mendacity in life while avoiding the unfortunate consequences in the afterlife.

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/34 "2012-09-05T04:49:04Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> There’s a lot of people at the convention that felt that way. It seemed like half the speakers were really just trying to position themselves for 2012.

You have to give them credit for living up to their philosophy, “Everyone for himself!”

ETA: I assume you meant 2016.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/35 "2012-09-05T09:46:25Z")

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This is the party of rugged individuality! Rational self-interest is by definition best for the community as long as labour remains divided. Especially if that rational self-interest ensures no Republican is elected.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-elephant-in-the-room-christies-keynote-speech/633018/36 "2012-09-05T18:37:14Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Martin Luther was pretty hefty . . .

Not to mention Augustine.

What? He _was_ the Bishop of Hippo.

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