# The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628 "2009-06-03T21:12:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/21 "2009-06-04T01:54:38Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > nitpick, Hussein. It sounds more evil with the hissing sound. Obama’s a parseltongue? (I knew Bush and Rove and Cheney were all Slytherin but I thought BHO was Gryffindor.) Colin Powell summed it up to me better than anyone else has when he endorsed Obama: > [@](#): > > Powell also spoke passionately against the insinuations by some Republicans that Obama is a Muslim. > > “…he is not a Muslim, he’s a Christian. He’s always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, **what if he is**? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer’s no, that’s not America. Is there something wrong with some seven-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president? Yet, I have heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion, ‘He’s a Muslim and he might be associated terrorists.’ This is not the way we should be doing it in America.” Personally I’ve always assumed he was a liberal-to-the-point-of-closet-agnosticism Christian who knew that without some church affiliation he could never get elected. If this is true I have no problem with it (less than if he really is devout actually, I just hate that you have to pretend faith to get elected). OTOH, anyone who can believe that he was either 1- indoctrinated by a biological father he knew for less than a month or 2- indoctrinated to radical Islam by a completely secular Indonesian stepfather he lived with for a couple of years yet was not at all influenced by the Christian grandparents or agnostic mother he spent far more time with has either an odd view of the human mind or else a belief that twixt Christianity and Islam the latter is by far the more compelling religion. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/22 "2009-06-04T02:00:27Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Obama’s a parseltongue? Pedantic nitpick: Parselmouth. Parseltongue is to English as Parselmouth is to Anglophone. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/23 "2009-06-04T02:02:47Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > yet was not at all influenced by the Christian grandparents or agnostic mother he spent far more time with has either an odd view of the human mind or else a belief that twixt Christianity and Islam the latter is by far the more compelling religion. The right does tend to act as if their beliefs and desires are terribly fragile. Look at their paranoia over homosexuals “converting” their children. Or adults for that matter. Or their fear of exposure to leftism/secularism/the “wrong” religion. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/24 "2009-06-04T02:05:05Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Pedantic nitpick: Parselmouth. Parseltongue is to English as Parselmouth is to Anglophone. _Ssss sssss sssssssssss sss s…_ ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/25 "2009-06-04T02:19:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Hmm. > > Okay. > > Gay Muslim illegal immigrant weafare cheat demons with a socialist agenda. Who perform abortions on unmarried women who have recreational sex while they seek assisted suicide (_ETA: from evolution-teaching atheists_). …on drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/26 "2009-06-04T03:02:45Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Pedantic nitpick: Parselmouth. Parseltongue is to English as Parselmouth is to Anglophone. Also, why couldn’t a Gryffindor be a Parselmouth? Harry is, after all. _goes off to nerd elsewhere_ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/27 "2009-06-04T03:17:16Z")
Hmph, there was a time when you could accuse a man of being a Freemason and that was good enough. What’s happened to society? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/28 "2009-06-04T03:19:03Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > …on drugs. _Recreational_ drugs. Illegal too. Not respectable drugs like OxyContin. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/29 "2009-06-04T03:56:25Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > 1- indoctrinated by a biological father he knew for less than a month Not only that, but his bio-father had abandoned Islam for atheism before Barack was even conceived. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/30 "2009-06-04T04:01:07Z")
Circumscribed by the evil rabbi, Darth Seder… ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/31 "2009-06-04T04:14:16Z")
How quickly we forget that his birth certificate is a _ **forgery** _. I remember getting an E-Mail about this years ago. His _real_ birth certificate absolutely proves that he was born in Mecca which would finally bring an end to all this discussion about whather or not Barrack HUSSEIN Obama is a Muslim. Well, maybe it is too late to warn any of you about this since New Hampshire just legalized gay marriage. :eek: Our country will not last much longer. It won’t be long before we see Obama fly Air Force One into a building. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/32 "2009-06-04T04:20:16Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > _Recreational_ drugs. Illegal too. Not respectable drugs like OxyContin. … while driving a _Prius_, and listening to _NPR_. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/33 "2009-06-04T06:22:30Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > > [@Fish](#): > > > > He’s a secret Muslim _and_ a socialist Nazi _and_ a Commie. > > …and a dessert topping and a floor wax! But does he make mounds and mounds of delicious cole slaw? That’s always been my litmus test. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/34 "2009-06-04T09:03:30Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I can’t tell what the OP is pitting, the story is discussing an actual phenomenon and seems pretty accurate. The headline. “roots” implies much more of a connection than what Obama has. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/35 "2009-06-04T09:12:50Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The headline. “roots” implies much more of a connection than what Obama has. Or he’s growing a secret army of Muslim plant-men. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/36 "2009-06-04T12:49:21Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The headline. “roots” implies much more of a connection than what Obama has. NPR used the phrase “Muslim roots” this morning. Something about his Cairo speech, in which he “mentioned his own Muslim roots” or some such. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/37 "2009-06-04T12:57:15Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > NPR used the phrase “Muslim roots” this morning. Something about his Cairo speech, in which he “mentioned his own Muslim roots” or some such. Not only that, he said “assalaamu alaykum”, and “my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and the fall of dusk” and “Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed (peace be upon them)”, thus denying the divinity of Jesus and relegating him to equal status with Mohammed. He also said “The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements”. Clearly, the man is coming out of the closet as a Muslim. There can be no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/38 "2009-06-04T13:30:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Personally I’ve always assumed he was a liberal-to-the-point-of-closet-agnosticism Christian who knew that without some church affiliation he could never get elected. If this is true I have no problem with it (less than if he really is devout actually, I just hate that you have to pretend faith to get elected). I am somewhat amused by those on the left who join forces with the extreme right who wish to either ignore or deny Obama’s self professed deep Christian faith. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/39 "2009-06-04T13:32:29Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > [Obama] was worried the Republicans would use it to start a bunch of smear rumors Uh… didn’t they? Maybe I imagined all those panicky and loony emails. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628/40 "2009-06-04T13:37:23Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > I am somewhat amused by those on the left who join forces with the extreme right who wish to either ignore or deny Obama’s self professed deep Christian faith. It’s not like there’s anything I can do about it; being a Christian or lying about being one is effectively a requirement for being President. So he’s either a lunatic or a liar, neither of which makes me very happy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-emergence-of-president-obamas-muslim-roots/498628.md?page=3)