# The Engine Room: FORBIDDEN thread for Mafia SS Insipid **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 4, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327 "2009-08-04T20:02:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/21 "2009-08-11T21:01:19Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > There is a delay on promotions, I think? > > If not, Ichini Sanshigo could promote Chronos then, in her new capacity of Chief of Security, arrest him. > > It’s the sort of thing I’d be tempted to do just because it’s funny. Yeah, promotions happen at the end of the day, same time as the medical report comes in. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/22 "2009-08-12T19:22:35Z")
Both sides seem to be playing well, more or less. The game could still go either way, but the Town will be hurting if they don’t get scum ToDay. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/23 "2009-08-12T20:14:27Z")
Hal is just screaming scum to me. Committed to a vote late in day one; one place lower in the rankings than the guy who got offed in the night-kill. Or maybe he’s right and Chronos and Ben are scum. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/24 "2009-08-12T20:31:33Z")
Ha! I think it may take longer than until Monday to make sense of any of this. Dead hacker, people shifted around in the order (presumably **DiggitCamara** ’s work); a claim of known-innocence; and the repercussions of yesterday’s vote; all laid out to be dealt with in the first half hour. And **Inner Stickler** hasn’t even turned up with the engineer’s report yet. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/25 "2009-08-13T01:28:27Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Ha! I think it may take longer than until Monday to make sense of any of this. Dead hacker, people shifted around in the order (presumably **DiggitCamara** ’s work); a claim of known-innocence; and the repercussions of yesterday’s vote; all laid out to be dealt with in the first half hour. And **Inner Stickler** hasn’t even turned up with the engineer’s report yet. Yep. My work. I thought a pretty much verified townie would be the one to put at the Doctor’s spot. So I used my one-time Night power to switch him to that position. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/26 "2009-08-13T03:13:02Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Yep. My work. I thought a pretty much verified townie would be the one to put at the Doctor’s spot. So I used my one-time Night power to switch him to that position. Try to keep this thread spoiler free. Although I think it should be obvious enough, “obvious” varies greatly when you’re inside a Mafia game. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/27 "2009-08-13T04:00:47Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Try to keep this thread spoiler free. Although I think it should be obvious enough, “obvious” varies greatly when you’re inside a Mafia game. 🙂 Sorry about that. I thought this thread was spoilerized..:o ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/28 "2009-08-13T13:57:51Z")
> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Insipid \[Game Over\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/218): > > A few questions: > > Why did they kill someone of such a low rank? Does that mean that scum is either **Hal** , \*\*Darth \*\*or **Scuba**? > > Or did they kill him because they knew he had a secret role? I doubt they knew he had a secret role - there was no such evidence in the thread, and a night-spy power that returned before the murder decision had to be made seems pretty overpowered. That said, this seems like a classic WIFOM - either they killed a low rank to promote one of their own, in which case there’s a one-in-two chance of lynching scum on the first day and a dead-cinch lynch on the second (if you accept scuba and chronos’s claim), or they killed a low rank to cast suspicion on the three lower-ranking players so as to arrange a series of mislynches, in which case there is a 0% chance of lynching scum, and if you follow up and lynch the other one tomorrow you maybe end up handing the game to the scum. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/29 "2009-08-13T15:50:15Z")
Interesting that ColdPhoenix hasn’t reversed the arrest warrant on Chronos yet. Could be very handy to Scum to have a floating outstanding arrest warrant on a random townie, as it could hasten their victory by one day if they can maneuver one of their guys into the security chief’s chair. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/30 "2009-08-13T15:56:52Z")
(To carry that forward: if there are 3 scum, then with one more mislynch and a scum maneuvered into the security officer’s chair, they’d win tomorrow; if there are 2 scum, then they’d need 2 mislynches). ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/31 "2009-08-13T16:06:09Z")
Yep. The arrest warrants can make the difference in a close game. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/32 "2009-08-13T16:11:44Z")
I wonder why Chronos hasn’t made an issue of the warrant yet? It’s not like he hasn’t been posting. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/33 "2009-08-14T14:00:00Z")
> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Insipid \[Game Over\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/61): > > If I’m scum, I’ve no real power in the role anyway. I can order arrests but rely on security to make them. If he’s not scum then I may as well not be captain. That was way back on day one. ColdPhoenix either doesn’t understand how powerful open arrest orders can be for scum, or is completely scummy. And I can’t believe nobody in the game has picked up on the open arrest order (particularly Chronos, although he’s being distracted by his shiny). ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/34 "2009-08-14T14:11:49Z")
Nobody’s said the obvious regarding Diggit’s night action, either. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/35 "2009-08-14T14:34:28Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Nobody’s said the obvious regarding Diggit’s night action, either. In here or over there? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/36 "2009-08-14T14:41:38Z")
Over there. Unless I missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/37 "2009-08-14T19:24:22Z")
Well. At least people appear to have noticed that there IS an arrest warrant. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/38 "2009-08-14T20:41:54Z")
Thinking about arrest-warrant shenanigans. Imagine that Cold, Cookies and Stickler are scum. Some time Monday morning, Chronos issues an order to promote Ichini (as he’s said he will do). In the meantime, Cold looks very likely to be lynched. So at 11:55, Cold issues an arrest warrant for Scuba Ben (for instance); Stickler makes the arrest. Cold is spaced and revealed as scum, Chronos is promoted to captain, and the list looks like: 1 - Chronos 2 - Stickler 3 - Ichini 4 - Cookies (2 others plus ben in the brig) Overnight, scum night-kill Chronos. First thing in the morning, scummy Captain Stickler issues an arrest warrant for whoever, Cookies carries it out, and there are now 4 players voting, and with a strict majority requirement, nobody gets spaced. Then the night-kill rolls around, and scum wins, despite having gotten lynched the previous Day. Neat. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/39 "2009-08-17T15:43:40Z")
Well, this is turning out to be exciting. I wonder which way it will go. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327/40 "2009-08-17T16:06:21Z")
Very exciting. For the record, I believe Chronos and think IS is scum. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-engine-room-forbidden-thread-for-mafia-ss-insipid/505327.md?page=3)