# The Enterprise Speculation And/Or Wish List Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 25, 2002, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753 "2002-05-25T03:47:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![heptapod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@heptapod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heptapod)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/21 "2002-05-28T02:07:41Z")

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I wish Malcolm would act on his feelings for Tripp.  
I wish that Archer was more formal with his crew as well.  
I wish Dr. Phlox would get angry just once.  
I hope they confirm the idea that the shadowy guy from the future is actually from the Mirror-Mirror universe working to make that future come about.  
I wish they’d explain why Archer has a picture of a space shuttle in his quarters among other vessels named Enterprise and explain why that shuttle is named Enterprise. That shuttle was named by trekkies. If it isn’t the Enterprise shuttle it’d be awfully silly to see Enterprise, Enterprise, Enterprise, Challenger, Enterprise.  
I think this particular series isn’t even happening in the canon timeline that eventually begets Kirk and Picard. That’s how the current producers can take such liberties with history and the show.

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**Author:** ![heptapod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@heptapod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heptapod)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/22 "2002-05-28T02:16:48Z")

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I wish Malcolm would act on his feelings for Tripp.  
I wish that Archer was more formal with his crew as well.  
I wish Dr. Phlox would get angry just once.  
I hope they confirm the idea that the shadowy guy from the future is actually from the Mirror-Mirror universe working to make that future come about.  
I’d like to see an explanation about the difference between TOS and TNG Klingons rather than Worf’s lame line in DS9.  
I’d like to see the original aliens being used, no new races. Develop the old races so they have a bit more dimension to them rather than Klingons being honor-bound negroes with cheese graters on their foreheads and Vulcans being sexless Chinese bearing pointy ears.  
I wish they’d explain why Archer has a picture of a space shuttle in his quarters among other vessels named Enterprise and explain why that shuttle is named Enterprise. That shuttle was named by trekkies. If it isn’t the Enterprise shuttle it’d be awfully silly to see Enterprise, Enterprise, Enterprise, Challenger, Enterprise.  
I think this particular series isn’t even happening in the canon timeline that eventually begets Kirk and Picard. That’s how the current producers can take such liberties with history and the show.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/23 "2002-05-28T04:03:09Z")

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**heptapod** , you’re a triple threat! 😃  
Three of the same post. You may be caught in a repeating timeline.  
(Seriously, was your transfer getting stuck? Mine does too.)

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**Author:** ![dqa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dqa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dqa)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/24 "2002-05-28T05:53:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by heptapod \*  
> **I hope they confirm the idea that the shadowy guy from the future is actually from the Mirror-Mirror universe working to make that future come about.**

That could be interesting, since we know in the Mirror Mirror universe all Vulcans have goatees.:eek:

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**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/25 "2002-05-28T17:23:49Z")

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The shuttle was pictured as a previous _Enterprise_ in ST:TNG, too, so its canon. Besides, yeah, in our reality the Enterprise was so named due (in part) to a letter-writing campaign by trekkies (it was named by NASA, not trekkies, btw) - in Trek reality, there’s no reason for the first space shuttle to be named _Enterprise_. The first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier was the USS _Enterprise_, so that could’ve started a tradition of naming the first of an important class of vehicles _Enterprise_. I don’t have a problem with that.

As for what I wish…besides T’Pol dressing more like a Vulcan and less like a gymnast (besides, silicon is illogical…)…Orion pirates and the Romulan war (we can’t ever see the Romulans and have the crew know that that’s who they are, however, nobody had ever seen a Romulan until Kirk and Spock came along). Oh, and a less butt-ugly hairstyle on T’Pol. It’s been established that Vulcan women don’t necessarily wear their hair like that (T’Pring, T’Pau, Dr Selar from TNG, Saavik, etc…) and Jolene Blalock looks much better than that with her normal hair.

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**Author:** ![heptapod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@heptapod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heptapod)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/26 "2002-05-28T22:45:17Z")

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I thought all Vulcans had soupbowl haircuts regardless of gender.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/27 "2002-05-28T23:21:32Z")

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T’Pring and T’Pau, in “Amok Time,” didn’t do the soupbowl-hairdos. But then, they weren’t serving on any ships either.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/28 "2002-05-28T23:35:55Z")

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Kirstie Alley had long hair, and it was still regulation, as she said on the turbolift.

And Future Guy is Darth Sideous.

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**Author:** ![majinborg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/db5fbb/32.png) [@majinborg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/majinborg)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/29 "2002-05-28T23:45:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by majinborg \*  
> \*\*Tell me: could _Enterprise_ scream I’M A SEQUEL any louder???
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I can’t believe no one caught my error. _Enterprise_ is a prequel, not a sequel.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/30 "2002-05-28T23:54:36Z")

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I wonder when “Chef” is going to get some actual screen time. Or even a real name. My guess is that when the character actually shows up, it will be Whoopie Goldberg.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/31 "2002-05-28T23:59:06Z")

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Nah, Isaac Hayes!!!

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**Author:** ![heptapod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@heptapod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heptapod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/32 "2002-05-29T00:24:04Z")

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Heh, everytime they refer to the chef I imagine him walking onto the bridge going “Hello childrens, hows my little crackas today”  
I doubt they’d do anything as cute as that or anything like in that Steven Segal movie where he was a retired commando working as a chef on a cruiseship and ends up single handedly beating the terrorists with the help of a stripper who jumped out of a cake earlier in the movie.  
That’d be cool.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/33 "2002-05-29T01:20:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*Nah, Isaac Hayes!!! \*\*

Generalizations are odious, but save for Tars you are all really, really sick.

I too would like to see more TOS aliens.

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**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/34 "2002-05-29T17:31:25Z")

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Arrrgh…that’ll teach me to read my post before submitting - I was intending to declare that there’s no reason for the first shuttle in this “universe” _not_ to be named _Enterprise_, backed up by the example of the USS _Enterprise_, CVN-65.

Hopefully, y’all picked that up by context.

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/35 "2002-05-29T17:42:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> “Tellarites do not argue for reasons. They simply argue.”

Wow! Who knew? I’m married to a Tellarite!

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/36 "2002-05-29T18:23:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*T’Pring and T’Pau, in “Amok Time,” didn’t do the soupbowl-hairdos. But then, they weren’t serving on any ships either. \*\*

T’pring – Rowr!

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/37 "2002-05-29T18:43:32Z")

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[hijack]

I always wondered what was up with the baby-doll dress and the jewelry and all the ritual and fanfare. Not very logical, there.

[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/38 "2002-05-29T19:19:14Z")

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[hijack reply] when the dress is on someone who looks like T’Pring, it’s eminently logical. Yowza. [/hijack reply]

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/39 "2002-05-29T19:47:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by a35362 \*  
> \*\*[hijack]
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> I always wondered what was up with the baby-doll dress and the jewelry and all the ritual and fanfare. Not very logical, there.
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> [/hijack] \*\*

That’s why they call it “Amok TIme”, Dude.  
Spock mentions to Kirk in the ‘Vulcan birds and bees’ conversation about “having out logic stripped from us”.

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-enterprise-speculation-and-or-wish-list-thread/110753/40 "2002-05-29T20:21:42Z")

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\<geek mode\>  
I want to see Hoshi and T’Pol poledance with a bunch of Orion slave girls. :eek:  
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