The ethics of my accident

Jamie, I apologize for being such a bitch. What happened to you is unfortunate, and if the doctor did screw up then I am glad you received some money. But I don’t think any of us will ever know what the exact circumstances are behind the decision to clap without reasing a bunch of records, depos and reports.

And mentioning the subsequent OWI was a low blow.

Jamie, I’m not a business owner but if I was I would wait for the first thing you did that was questionable to revoke your membership. Resentful self entitled individuals like yourself cause nothing but problems and generally ruin the good time for everyone else. YOU caused a car accident that left you paralyzed. Youthful zeal, bad hand eye coordination, whatever it is that caused your accident was caused by YOU. IMHO it sounds to me like you’re just trying to take out major resentments that you have against yourself for causing your paralysis on anyone that YOU decide has done you wrong. Maybe if you took some responsibility for what YOU did and stop blaming the doctor’s etc YOU would be a little less miserable. After all, if you’d taken that corner a little slower we wouldn’t even be here talking about this. If you want to find out about someone who had a real future ahead of them and made a stupid mistake resulting in complete paralysis I raise you my cousin. He’s an inspiration not some whiny little flake. BTW he never tried to sue the hotel he was staying at for positioning balconies over the swimming pool that he dived into. And he’d only had three beers too. And before you start saying what a stupid thing diving into a pool off of a balcony is, and it is, he was a champion high diver. Pretty sure you weren’t a race car driver. Just saying.

The outcome he is referring to is the legal case, not the medical case. The fact he got money from the doctor.

The fact is that he got money from the insurer of the doctor. This doesn’t prove malpractice.

I didn’t say it was. I was clarifying the confusion that the case in question was the legal one, not the medical one. You’ll notice the post I was responding to was answering that the outcome was a bad medical one, when Jamie was referring the positive outcome of the legal case.

I remain unconvinced of malpractice

My case was three years in the making. I had a pair of malpractice attorneys who employed a vast array of tools in making my case. This included (but was limited to): professional videographer, opposing doctor view testimony, medical data, etc. I’d have to dig up my records of the case to tell you the reason given for not using the bypass machine. Yes, I sued both the doctor and the hospital.

to repeat: was it a settlement or did a judge or jury award you money based on the doctor’s malpractice?

Sir, you have the wrong impression of me. I may be responsible for procuring that impression, at least partially, with the nature and writing-style of my threads. And you may be responsible, at least partially, for getting that impression due to the one-sided nature of the way in which you read those threads. I don’t think it’s a either/or situation (but I’m sure I’ll be corrected). But I assure you, you are wrong to characterize me in this way.

Got it. There is alot of confusion regarding good and bad outcomes in this thread. You were responding to the poor medical outcome from the surgery ie the paralysis, rather than the legal outcome which was settlement. I was mistaken on the meaning of your post. Sorry.

ETA It can be argued that the outcome of the surgery was positive, though we will never know.

This is comedy gold squared (minimum). You are fully aware that the outfit is breaking no law; however, you simply don’t care about that. You are offended. So you’re going to screw them over. Mediation, court, government investigation, whatever it takes to screw them over because they didn’t dance to your tune. Anyway, how do you know that they are not actively working to be fully in compliance with that law when it goes into effect? But that doesn’t matter because, once again, you don’t care that they are not breaking any laws currently in effect.

Honestly, I hope your case does go to court instead of mediation. I hope the judge laughs himself or herself silly and then hammers you for the frivolousness of your action. I hope the judge then lays into your attorney for not getting it across to you that your wish is not current law.

Finally, I hope this thread gets moved to The BBQ Pit so you do get what you deserve.

Sorry, Peremose, but my simple stating of cause and effect does not equate to saying that he deserved to be paralyzed. :rolleyes:

And, Jamie, if you read it that way, my apologies, for what they’re worth.

Jamie, FWIW, you don’t owe anybody here any explanation or justification of anything. And nothing you can do or say is going to change the minds of people who have already decided they have you figured out. The ‘‘ethics of your accident’’ should have never even been brought up in the first place - from my perspective it was a line that should not have been crossed in the Pit or otherwise. They don’t know who you are, they don’t know shit about you except what you posted, and they can’t validate you. Their opinions are basically meaningless - and I don’t mean that in a judgmental way against them - that’s just the nature of the message board beast.

I have been in a similar position before on this board, and it gave me significant insight into my own issues that I felt the need for everyone here to think I was ‘‘okay’’ before I myself could feel okay. I don’t know if that’s the case with you, but regardless, you have no obligation to justify any of this.

Jamie, if you don’t mind me asking, how much did you get in the settlement? Also, in your opinion, did you sue for the money, or to make them take responsibility? If it’s primarily the latter, would you have been okay with a formal, sincere apology, and a change in procedures to prevent what happened to you from happening again?

As an aside, you seem to have take to advocacy for disabled people, have you done any work trying to prevent underage drinking, drunk driving, or the use of seatbelts? If not, why not?

olives, I must say that I am often moved by your insightful posts, and I very much appreciate what you’ve shared on this board (I’ve been wanting to say that for a while, and I’m just taking the opportunity to do so now).

jamie, I’ve only skimmed through some of the recent threads, and I don’t feel that I am in any position to weigh in except to say that I hope that you figure out how to deal with these things in whatever way works best for you.

Aww, thanks!

None of those quotes say that they believed Jamie deserved to be crippled by malpractice. Simply stating cause and effect is not the same thing.

On reading your other messages, I think the first one I’ve quoted was intended as a joke. Gentle suggestion - don’t joke about this topic because it is not obvious when you are joking and when you aren’t. Either that, or use the emoticons.

That first quote was obviously a joke to me.

Color me blind, but I’m unable to find any cite which indicates CPB being used for any purpose other than surgeries where the heart itself needs to be stopped. The CPB machine also has severe, inherent risks and also requires a long time to set up, which I’d imagine would make it useless for traumatic aortic dissection – a life-threatening injury in which seconds literally matter. I’m sorry that you suffered such a horrible (albeit common) complication from this surgery, but frankly, I’m hesitant to believe your story about how the doctor “forgot to remove the clamp” since your additional claim about the CPB machine appears to be specious at best.

Also, you should know that .06 BAC is plenty “drunk” enough to be potentially ruled as DWI, even if you’re of drinking age. The so-called “legal limit” for DWI (.08 in most states) is merely the cut-off point for disallowing any claim that you weren’t drunk – but even lower BAC values can get you hit with a DWI conviction, if the prosecutor can establish that you were not in control of your facilities at the time.