# The "Existence of God" debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 25, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-existence-of-god-debate/669664 "2013-09-25T18:50:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-existence-of-god-debate/669664/32 "2013-09-27T00:38:11Z")
> [@Farin](#): > > I could make the argument that since science has it’s sacrosanct theories that are inviolate “until we achieve a higher technology” that it, too, is a religion. After all, aren’t we just exchanging a “betterment of ourselves” as espoused in most religions for a “betterment of our technology”? That’s a silly comparison. Science is based on evidence and reason, not faith and irrationality like religion; science and religion are opposites. Nor does science have any “sacrosanct theories”; on the contrary, there’s nothing any ambitious scientist would like more than to tear down some well known or important theory - it would make his or her name in scientific history. > [@Farin](#): > > Stalin stole many devices of the religious segments to embed his political ambitions into the USSR. Which is normal for religions; Christianity stole a great deal from other religions as well. > [@Farin](#): > > Not all religions are like that. Jewish beliefs do not hold a “Hell” and yet when they were a monarchy in ancient times, they had no trouble waging war for the glory of both God and state. They didn’t really have a concept of “Afterlife” until after the monarchy was crushed and the first Temple destroyed. So what propelled those first warriors? All the other things that propel warriors, I expect. > [@Farin](#): > > People are “moral” versus “amoral” on their own. No; they are strongly influenced by outside forces. And religion is a powerful force for corruption, both moral and intellectual. > [@Farin](#): > > That’s a ridiculous generalization. It’s an acknowledgement of history. Christianity got to its present position through bloodshed, terror and destruction. All of its benevolent claims have throughout history overwhelmingly been empty rhetoric. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-existence-of-god-debate/669664)._