# The Expanse season 2 episode discussion (spoilers as it airs) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 1, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787 "2017-02-01T23:52:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/141 "2017-03-16T20:34:22Z")
> [@by-tor](#): > > Wow, what an amazing episode (8). > > Anyone else completely pissed off at Naomi? Yes it seemed like she had a shady past, but she seemed to have turned that around. I guess her loyalty to The Belt is greater than her loyalty to Holden. It’s a shame she decided to be dishonest to try and keep both. ---
**Author:** ![jackstarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@jackstarr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackstarr)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/142 "2017-03-16T21:21:43Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > The only minor pisser for me is that I can’t get the 1st season unless I pay through Youtube’s premium as it isn’t available on Amazon Prime Canada or Space. ☹ It’s my understanding that Season 1 is also available on CraveTV in Canada. Season 1 is on Amazon Prime Video in the US, and on Netflix in the UK & some other countries. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I am the least fashion conscious person I know, but every time I see Chrisjen on screen I blurt out how beautiful her clothes are. She’s breathtaking and I love her character so much. So true. Chrisjen is a fantastic character, and Shohreh Aghdashloo a stunning and brilliant actress (a former Oscar nominee and Emmy award winner). ---
**Author:** ![jackstarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@jackstarr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackstarr)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/143 "2017-03-16T21:28:42Z")
And…news just in: renewed for a third season ![http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/16/14951490/the-expanse-renewed-third-season-syfy](http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/16/14951490/the-expanse-renewed-third-season-syfy) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/144 "2017-03-17T01:45:44Z")
Is that Asian guy in the last episode a new main character, then? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/145 "2017-03-17T02:13:23Z")
> [@jackstarr](#): > > …So true. Chrisjen is a fantastic character, and Shohreh Aghdashloo a stunning and brilliant actress (a former Oscar nominee and Emmy award winner). It looks like we’ll see a lot of her next week; during the Earth-Mars Summit. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Is that Asian guy in the last episode a new main character, then? The guy looking for his daughter? Yes, he’s new. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/146 "2017-03-17T02:28:16Z")
Wow another great episode. Lately more happens in one episode of The Expanse than many entire movies. Seems like they resolved the Tycho takeover a little too easily. The moment when they opened the airlock on the refugees, I believe my jaw dropped. Great bit of storytelling there, take a tragic story, make things slightly better when he decides to go with her, add the shock and frustration of them being separated at the last second, then HUGE tragedy. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/147 "2017-03-17T05:35:06Z")
I actually saw the airlocking of the inners coming as soon as they started to collect everyone for “transfer”. The idea of them being transferred in deep space rather than at a station didn’t make sense to me. Seeing it coming didn’t make it any less horrifying. Naomi being deceitful about the missile is more than a little gut-wrenching. I can’t see how that might end well. But, it’s good writing. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/148 "2017-03-17T13:15:13Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > I actually saw the airlocking of the inners coming as soon as they started to collect everyone for “transfer”. The idea of them being transferred in deep space rather than at a station didn’t make sense to me. Seeing it coming didn’t make it any less horrifying. > > Naomi being deceitful about the missile is more than a little gut-wrenching. I can’t see how that might end well. But, it’s good writing. Personally it was the “It’s a good ship” in a russian accent that set off my warnings. From that phrase, I was pretty sure all the Inners were gonners. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/149 "2017-03-17T14:07:29Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > I actually saw the airlocking of the inners coming as soon as they started to collect everyone for “transfer” It is a testament to how well this show is made that the “spacing” was pretty obviously coming, but I was still moved to see it happen. That final show of Asian-guy’s wife as her mouth stopped moving in space was…haunting. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/150 "2017-03-17T14:34:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > That final show of Asian-guy’s wife as her mouth stopped moving in space was…haunting. I believe was just his co-worker, not his wife. Though there may be more than just work feelings going on there. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/151 "2017-03-20T19:22:10Z")
Finally caught up with _Pyre_ last night. Great episode overall, with a few things I really liked and a few things that bugged me. - Amos went from bad-ass to mopey teenager too fast in the previous episode, and then suddenly recovered in 10 seconds in this one. I’m not a fan of that little arc. I assume they’re trying to slowly add some of his backstory, but it needed a little more. - I found Naomi hiding the protomolecule sample a few episodes ago believable. She didn’t really see it as a betrayal of Holden, but more as keeping their options open, like “Jim will thank me for this later.” Then when the shit started to hit the fan more this week, she was stuck and wrestling with what to do next. - I like the casting of Prax Meng. In the books, he walked a fine line between being a sympathetic character and being frustratingly naive and incompetent, but usually ended up sympathetic. They’ve captured that character well so far. - I’m still not liking the casting of Johnson’s second in command (who we now know is Drummer, not Michio Pa). Her scenes with Naomi were wooden. The quick justice at the end of the takeover was a great scene, but see Amos for an example of well-acted matter-of-fact violence. - If it’s really that easy to kill everyone in Tycho command by doing a quick space-walk and turning off the air to the room, I don’t know how that station is still around. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/152 "2017-03-23T14:51:39Z")
Same here. They are really diverging from the book a fair bit but I like the direction they are going. I’m about to start Book 4 so it should be fun to follow the two stories as they evolve. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/153 "2017-03-23T15:56:47Z")
Today’s episode was interesting. Thought it felt a bit like part 1 of 2. I thought Bobbie’s first interview went well. I was afraid they’d make her crack and stumble, but she kept her back up. Avasarala was great. “With all due respect, madam, where are you going with this?” “_Wherever I goddamn like!_” ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/154 "2017-03-24T11:56:00Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > Today’s episode was interesting. Thought it felt a bit like part 1 of 2. > > I thought Bobbie’s first interview went well. I was afraid they’d make her crack and stumble, but she kept her back up. Avasarala was great. > > “With all due respect, madam, where are you going with this?” > > “_Wherever I goddamn like!_” Loved that moment! 😉 I thought Draper would fold, and she kinda did there at the end. If the Proto-molecule can survive a crash on Venus, and apparently be able to survive in that hell hole, Humanity is doomed. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/155 "2017-03-25T03:24:02Z")
I’m several episodes behind, but I just saw Ep 5 “Home”, and it was one of the best sci-fi TV episodes I can remember. Up there with the very best episodes of ST:TNG, DS9, BSG, and even Firefly. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/156 "2017-03-25T13:20:47Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Loved that moment! 😉 > > I thought Draper would fold, and she kinda did there at the end. > > If the Proto-molecule can survive a crash on Venus, and apparently be able to survive in that hell hole, **Humanity is doomed**. From the books: [SPOILER]And that’s a big part of what makes Bobbie’s and Avasarala’a stories so great. They’re just about the only Earther and Martian who understand that this is bigger than the petty feud between Earth and Mars, despite the fact that, up until now, they’ve both dedicated their lives to one side or the other of that fight. They both realize that they need to work together to save everyone, even if that makes them look like a traitor to their own tribe. [/SPOILER] ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/157 "2017-03-25T16:50:16Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > Today’s episode was interesting. Thought it felt a bit like part 1 of 2. > > I thought Bobbie’s first interview went well. I was afraid they’d make her crack and stumble, but she kept her back up. Avasarala was great. > > “With all due respect, madam, where are you going with this?” > > “_Wherever I goddamn like!_” Yes, Avasarala is a great example of a character where you’re really shown how intelligent, crafty, and resourceful she is, as opposed to other characters around her simply going ‘boy, that woman is really intelligent, crafty, and resourceful’. It really irks me to no end when characters that everybody’s always fawning about as being the smartest people around end up doing nothing but stupid shit all the time… ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/158 "2017-03-30T03:24:18Z")
So Bobbi finally got to see the ocean. It actually looked much cleaner than I was expected. That there’s a favela in the vicinity of what’s probably some of the most expensive real estate on the planet was odd, but fitting. If _that’s_ typical of Basic Assistance no wonder people are willing to immigrate to the Belt & Outer Planets. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/159 "2017-03-30T04:11:28Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > That there’s a favela in the vicinity of what’s probably some of the most expensive real estate on the planet was odd, but fitting. If _that’s_ typical of Basic Assistance no wonder people are willing to immigrate to the Belt & Outer Planets. I liked the Blade Runner-esque touch that even people living in hovels still had high-tech pots with digital temperature readouts on the side. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787/160 "2017-03-31T00:56:20Z")
Just watched this week’s episode. Fantastic! I wonder if Draper will help Avasarala. I’m guessing she’s going to start snooping aorund and what she finds will sway her to Earth’s side a bit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-2-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/778787.md?page=9)