# The Expanse; season 3 (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247 "2018-04-11T22:07:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/101 "2018-05-30T13:26:30Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Indeed](https://twitter.com/Casanvar/status/1000234595680505856/video/1)!
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> ETA: Link is to a Twitter account showing video of Jeff Bezos announcing that Amazon is picking up The Expanse! (Don’t worry; the audio is muted.)

That is such great news. On a side note - Anyone else find it odd to see “Amos” smiling and laughing?

“I’m that guy…” 😃

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/102 "2018-05-31T03:09:41Z")

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Well I certainly did not see hardly anything of what happened tonight coming!

Is family Mao all behind the set-up, “new girl” (telling they do not say her name) and blind cameraman together? To what end?

What sort of message is the ring sending out and what sort of answer is it looking for? What is “Miller” being sent to “find”?

Gawd I’m glad we’re getting another season!

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/103 "2018-05-31T12:46:38Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> And Jeff Bezos just announced that Amazon is picking up The Expanse!! Show is saved y’all!

Now, that we are so happy, we do the dance of joy!

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/104 "2018-05-31T23:40:39Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Well I certainly did not see hardly anything of what happened tonight coming!
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> Is family Mao all behind the set-up, “new girl” (telling they do not say her name) and blind cameraman together? To what end?
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> What sort of message is the ring sending out and what sort of answer is it looking for? What is “Miller” being sent to “find”?
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> Gawd I’m glad we’re getting another season!

Through that blob of protomolocule thats currently on the Roci, the ring is using miller to tell holden how to enter the ring. At this point it seems reasonable that creepy camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert, the amount of camera footage that would have to be editted to fool Everyone would have to be very professionally done, the only thing that seems odd about the set up was that I did not see any footage of a faked missile shot or anything else the Roci could have used to take out that science ship.

Im expecting next week that Drummer is going to ask for her missile back.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/105 "2018-05-31T23:50:52Z")

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Originally I had read the first Expanse book (and found it underwhelming) and failed at reading very deep into the second one after 2 or 3 attempts. But last week’s cliffhanger spurred me to try again–I skimmed book 2 (enough to notice that the TV series has strayed quite a lot from the book in detail if not in direction), read the 3rd book (that deals with the ring) and am past halfway on the 4th book.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/106 "2018-06-01T00:05:27Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Through that blob of protomolocule thats currently on the Roci, the ring is using miller to tell holden how to enter the ring. At this point it seems reasonable that creepy camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert, the amount of camera footage that would have to be editted to fool Everyone would have to be very professionally done, the only thing that seems odd about the set up was that I did not see any footage of a faked missile shot or anything else the Roci could have used to take out that science ship.
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> Im expecting next week that Drummer is going to ask for her missile back.

Who’s “power up girl”? The fellow journalist? If so, I have seen nothing that would indicate that she and the blind camera guy (who HAS sabotaged the Rocinante) are in concert together other than as fellow employees.

What question this begs to me is: WHO is the real OPA? The Behemoth is under OPA control led by Drummond (and suspicious new guy)…and then there’s the spectre of Fred Johnson (but also Anderson Dawes, whom we have not seen but heard mentioned a few times recently). Who is directing Clarissa Mao to plant a bomb on a UN science ship? Furthermore, what is that ability she has to suddenly become viciously murderous? Is that protomolecule related?

I hate the fact that I have read the books but I cannot for the life of me remember what in the fuck is going on.

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**Author:** ![zwede](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ac91a4/32.png) [@zwede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zwede)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/107 "2018-06-01T00:17:47Z")

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Regarding Clarissa Mao’s ‘powers’:

I don’t think this is a spoiler but just in case someone doesn’t want to know:

Clarissa has illegal implants that can greatly boost speed & strength for a short time. However, those implants are also slowly killing her, which is why they’re illegal. It is not related to the proto-molecule.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/108 "2018-06-01T01:16:36Z")

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Last week was a tough episode for them to write. Huge time jump, everyone in different spots. It felt like the end of one book and the start of a new one.

I liked this week’s a lot more. I have no idea what to expect with them making contact with the ring.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/109 "2018-06-01T02:50:39Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Is family Mao all behind the set-up, “new girl” (telling they do not say her name) and blind cameraman together? To what end?

Someone did say her (assumed) name: Melba.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/110 "2018-06-01T05:10:30Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Someone did say her (assumed) name: Melba.

Well, she’s clearly toast.  
😃

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/111 "2018-06-01T13:46:00Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I hate the fact that I have read the books but I cannot for the life of me remember what in the fuck is going on.

Your problem here is that you’ve got people using book-info to spoil what is going on in the episode (“camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert”) even though it hasn’t been established in the show yet. The series did an _in media res_ jump here, and hasn’t explained a lot of what is going on now (e.g., who all those people on the UN ship are and why they’re there), so it’s tempting to fill in from book knowledge.

AND the show has diverged from the book in some ways that are playing out in recent episodes – the OPA politics in the series is different than it was in the books. Together, the combination is making the tv series a little more confusing than it would be if you were watching without book preconceptions and just letting the tv explain it as it happens.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/112 "2018-06-01T14:46:02Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Your problem here is that you’ve got people using book-info to spoil what is going on in the episode (“camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert”) even though it hasn’t been established in the show yet. …

As someone who has _not_ read the book it seems very clear, i.e. established, that “camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert” … to what end and as part of what element is completely unclear (although I _suspect_ Family Mao as the group umbrella even if I have no idea why they’d be doing what this group is doing). She arranges the ship to blow up and he arranges for the Roci group to appear to claim responsibility in the name of the OPA. Dedicated enough to the cause to take on likely suicide missions too.

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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/113 "2018-06-01T15:19:56Z")

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I love the show. That being said, David Strathairn doing that accent really bugs me. Don’t know what it is about it, maybe because his voice is well known, whereas everyone else doing belter is a relatively unknown?

The other thing that bugs me is I’ve read the first 2 or 3 books, and have them jumbled up with some other series. In the books was there a big thing on Luna? Some family (Mao) drama and a bad side of the moon?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/114 "2018-06-01T15:26:41Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Your problem here is that you’ve got people using book-info to spoil what is going on in the episode (“camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert”) even though it hasn’t been established in the show yet.

The post said “At this point it seems reasonable that creepy camera man and power up girl are at least working in concert.” That is speculation. Your deletion changes the meaning of the post.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/115 "2018-06-01T15:31:04Z")

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Yeah, it was obvious to this non-book reader that they were working in concert. I had no idea who she was and that she was a Mao, though.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/116 "2018-06-01T15:32:41Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> Yeah, it was obvious to this non-book reader that they were working in concert. I had no idea who she was and that she was a Mao, though.

Ditto. The post here that revealed it was really unnecessary and a bummer, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/117 "2018-06-04T15:26:17Z")

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> [@Paintcharge](#):
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> I love the show. That being said, David Strathairn doing that accent really bugs me. Don’t know what it is about it, maybe because his voice is well known, whereas everyone else doing belter is a relatively unknown?\<snip\>

All the Belter accents bug me (I imagine they are supposed to). It’s like, the whole time they’re talking, I’m trying to figure out what that accent is, and it’s not supposed to be any Earth accent - it’s _supposed_ to be a new thing.

So, the proto-molecule is trying to communicate with someone, anyone, eh? Interesting. It’s not just a malevolent, kill everything it comes in contact with organism.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/118 "2018-06-07T02:50:59Z")

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I loved how Holden demanding to know what “Miller” knows resulted incomprehensible technobabble. 😉 Only 3 more episodes left; it feels like the season is ending too soon, but at least we know there’ll be a season 4.

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/119 "2018-06-07T13:24:33Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I loved how Holden demanding to know what “Miller” knows resulted incomprehensible technobabble. 😉

And Holden’s response was just as hilarious (though I can’t remember exactly what it was). While this episode did not have the adrenaline rush of the previous episode, there were many times I found myself chuckling at the dialogue (often Amos related).

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/120 "2018-06-07T15:29:39Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Only 3 more episodes left; it feels like the season is ending too soon, but at least we know there’ll be a season 4.

This season has 13 episodes, so there are four more episodes to come.

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