# The Expanse; season 3 (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247 "2018-04-11T22:07:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/121 "2018-06-07T16:52:26Z")

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Catching up again. I finished watching “It Reaches Out” a moment ago and I just got to say again - GOD DAMN I LOVE THIS SHOW! I’ve read all the books so knew the story line but I was still edge of my seat through this one. One more episode until I’m caught up.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/122 "2018-06-07T21:25:56Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Who’s “power up girl”? The fellow journalist? If so, I have seen nothing that would indicate that she and the blind camera guy (who HAS sabotaged the Rocinante) are in concert together other than as fellow employees.
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> What question this begs to me is: WHO is the real OPA? The Behemoth is under OPA control led by Drummond (and suspicious new guy)…and then there’s the spectre of Fred Johnson (but also Anderson Dawes, whom we have not seen but heard mentioned a few times recently). Who is directing Clarissa Mao to plant a bomb on a UN science ship? Furthermore, what is that ability she has to suddenly become viciously murderous? Is that protomolecule related?
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> I hate the fact that I have read the books but I cannot for the life of me remember what in the fuck is going on.

Power up girl is Clarissa/Melba, she seems like she pops a pill before going into action. She planted the bomb, and creepy camera dude was the one that set up the Roci changing out what ever those eproms were.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/123 "2018-06-07T21:28:24Z")

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It was nice to see Julie back , even if it was flashback. As well, it was nice to see her not painted blue and that fashions in that era tend to be more normal. Trying to guess what someone might wear in the future must be one of the hardest things.

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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/124 "2018-06-08T12:44:54Z")

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Did we see the reporter and camera guy actually get to the MCRN ship? Seemed awfully trusting of Amos to just send them over trusting they’d do the right thing.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/125 "2018-06-08T13:04:58Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> …and that fashions in that era tend to be more normal.

“Normal” is an utterly subjective view. What you mean is that they dress like late 20th-early 21st century Westerners.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/126 "2018-06-08T14:51:23Z")

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So cameraman Cohen and journalist woman Monica seem to have been just paid off stooges and the motivation is nothing more than revenge on Holden by a woman with very serious Daddy issues? I had been hoping for something more.

Naomi can’t catch up to them before the Mars ship does (they all have the same speed limit, although does she know what it is?)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/127 "2018-06-08T15:06:08Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> So cameraman Cohen and journalist woman Monica seem to have been just paid off stooges and the motivation is nothing more than revenge on Holden by a woman with very serious Daddy issues? I had been hoping for something more.

Monica is, as far as we know, innocent; it was the camera guy who did it all.

> [@DSeid](#):
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> Naomi can’t catch up to them before the Mars ship does (they all have the same speed limit, although does she know what it is?)

I went under the assumption that Earth shared that data with all ships since the _Behemoth_ seemed to know what the speed limit is.

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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/128 "2018-06-08T22:55:35Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Naomi can’t catch up to them before the Mars ship does (they all have the same speed limit, although does she know what it is?)

Yes, she knows. It was broadcast by the probe that came back out of the ring and as Naomi was leaving there was a joke comment made of (paraphrasing) “Don’t go too fast…”

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/129 "2018-06-09T00:50:50Z")

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I didn’t remember the exact maximum speed being broadcast. That going in slow was the key was clear by the Roci’s entrance, that much was now common knowledge, hence the joke.

But assume she knows the exact max speed. Then she indeed knows that she can’t catch up to them inside the ring, and certainly not before the Mars ship can. And she surely appreciates as Holden does that once that happens minimally the Roci is no back home for them. Now we as viewers know something else is going happen, even if we don’t know what, but there is no reason for Naomi to think other than that.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/130 "2018-06-09T14:00:07Z")

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So (spoilers for books, speculation for series ahead) There is only the one gate visible in the Slow Zone. Do you think that they are going to wait for the station to be shut down and have the other 1300-ish suddenly appear to be more dramatic?

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/131 "2018-06-10T02:13:27Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> So cameraman Cohen and journalist woman Monica seem to have been just paid off stooges and the motivation is nothing more than revenge on Holden by a woman with very serious Daddy issues? I had been hoping for something more.

I think it’s consistent with the rest of the series though. The Expanse is all about how the actions of a few people (well intentioned or not) affect the course of history.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/132 "2018-06-10T10:05:37Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> I didn’t remember the exact maximum speed being broadcast. That going in slow was the key was clear by the Roci’s entrance, that much was now common knowledge, hence the joke.
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> But assume she knows the exact max speed. Then she indeed knows that she can’t catch up to them inside the ring, and certainly not before the Mars ship can. And she surely appreciates as Holden does that once that happens minimally the Roci is no back home for them. Now we as viewers know something else is going happen, even if we don’t know what, but there is no reason for Naomi to think other than that.

18,000 km/hr, if I’m not mistaken.

ETA: Could have been per minute

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/133 "2018-06-10T13:45:14Z")

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Hour. Per minute wouldn’t be much of a speed restriction–it would be like roads on Earth having a speed limit of 500 MPH.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/134 "2018-06-10T14:21:00Z")

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The arbitrary number picked is somewhat besides the point. Unless it has some significance later for some reason. The point is that I hadn’t remembered it being broadcast that all could hear. I knew the Roci crew heard it but I was not sure the Behemoth crew (inclusive of Naomi) was able to.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/135 "2018-06-10T15:03:00Z")

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I was thinking of the discussion Naomi had with the scarred face guy, about how you can’t go back once you’ve outgrown something, and how he meant the Roci, and it actually was the OPA. That’s why this show needs to be renewed until it dies a natural death - it’s just so frigging _good!_

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/136 "2018-06-15T00:31:38Z")

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Anyone watch last night? Good episode!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/137 "2018-06-15T03:15:14Z")

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Yeah, it was fantastic. I can’t wait to see were some of the other Rings lead.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/138 "2018-06-15T03:38:48Z")

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I’m beginning to think I should stop watching until the season ends … waiting a whole week for a next episode is HARD! Damn I love this show.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/139 "2018-06-15T07:13:57Z")

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Wow, that was some 2001-level stuff.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/140 "2018-06-15T09:34:41Z")

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Note to self: do not mess with aliens who can manipulate gravity.

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