# The Expanse; season 3 (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247 "2018-04-11T22:07:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/141 "2018-06-15T19:17:42Z")
I watched this late last night (like 2am) after I got home from seeing Buckethead and thought it was fucking fantastic. That everyone would immediately glom onto the 2001-ness was obvious but the sequence was beautifully done and hopefully is more nuanced than “Holden is now Dr. Manhattan”. I continue to hate Melba/Clarissa. I liked the little side plot about doubt and fear; stuff like this adds to the “world”-sense and enriches the story/setting immensely. It’s a nice way to briefly explore social and just plain human issues and the show does it deftly. Amos kicks ass. Love this character. He’s so obviously deep it’s ridiculous, but the veneer is so strong we rarely get to see beneath. Excellently written and acted. I think I’ve waited until Season 3 to say this, but I gotta say it: I think “protomolecule” is a stupid fucking name and I wish the authors had chosen a different word, even if they still want it to seem semi-scientific. “Protomolecule” is almost as stupid as “unobtanium”. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/142 "2018-06-15T19:40:46Z")
And Miller is back! (Yes, he’s been back a few episodes but you know… he is getting more coherent and like the “old” Miller) It’s interesting because when I read the first book, the Miller character was the least interesting to me. I kept wanting to get through the Miller parts and get back to the spaceships, proto-molecule, Rocinante goodness! But for the show, Miller is my favorite character behind Amos. So happy to have him back into the storyline as the investigator. 😉 MeanJoe ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/143 "2018-06-15T21:34:35Z")
Is the “views within 3 days of airing” thing still important for ratings now that Amazon has picked it up for S4? I really prefer to binge the whole thing in a few sittings rather than watch it the old school 20th century way of 1x per week, but if my watching weekly is what keeps it in production, I’ll continue to do my part. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/144 "2018-06-15T22:54:45Z")
Personally I bought the whole season 3 from Amazon as a gesture of appreciation for picking up the show. I don’t know if they care when exactly I watch those episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/145 "2018-06-15T23:20:09Z")
Aye; I bought it on Amazon before S3 started airing, but I read somewhere that when they did ratings, they looked at views on the night it aired and then streaming views for the 3 days immediately following. Because of that, I’ve been really sure to watch on Amazon Thursday or Friday to help boost the rating (and now so Amazon can see they invested wisely). But if that doesn’t matter anymore because it’'s picked up and won’t air on SyFY anymore, I might wait another few weeks and watch the last 3 episodes all at once. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/146 "2018-06-17T11:46:21Z")
Anyone know what Amos’ forearm tattoo says? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/147 "2018-06-17T12:51:42Z")
This has become my absolute favorite show on TV. Every episode this season has been amazing, and there doesn’t seem to be any sign of slowing down. I’m a fan of the books since they first came out, and I think I like the show even more than the books. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/148 "2018-06-21T01:21:42Z")
It’s on, fools! Better be watching! ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/149 "2018-06-21T02:41:10Z")
I was wondering why the Nauvoo/Behemoth appeared to be both designed to have gravity by acceleration like all the other ships _and_ have a section for spin gravity. Even “unfurnished” that habitat drum is a literal life saver. I liked the way they showed how seemingly “minor” injuries can be so much more deadly in microgravity. Season finale next week; Chrisjen better have a big role. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/150 "2018-06-21T10:10:42Z")
For the second time on this page… > [@Shakester](#): > > This season has 13 episodes. There are two more episodes to come. Episode titles… 3/12 Congregation 3/13 Abaddon’s Gate ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/151 "2018-06-21T10:16:32Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > For the second time on this page… > > There are two more episodes to come. > > Episode titles… > > 3/12 Congregation > 3/13 Abaddon’s Gate But they’re being presented as a two episode finale next week. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/152 "2018-06-21T10:47:18Z")
* * * > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > But they’re being presented as a two episode finale next week. Oh, cool. Didn’t know that, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/153 "2018-06-21T14:22:51Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I was wondering why the Nauvoo/Behemoth appeared to be both designed to have gravity by acceleration like all the other ships _and_ have a section for spin gravity. This isn’t a spoiler, but it’s from the books so I’ll put it in spoiler tags just in case anyone is a stickler for those things: The standard gravity-by-acceleration design was for the beginning and end of the multi-century travel when they are accelerating and decelerating. The rotating drum was for all the years in between when they’d be on the drift. The book explanation for not being able to accelerate the entire time was insufficient reaction mass, and concerns with relativistic effects if they approached the speed of light. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/154 "2018-06-21T17:04:08Z")
I really liked this episode; it was a good follow for last weeks Big Mystery ending. I have not read the books, so to me it looks like Bobbie could have trouble from her fellow Marines. I don’t think it will go well for them. I loved that Anna was so pissed off that she suited up and followed Melba out into the freaky void. Sure, it’s pure fiction, but it was delicious. Loved that they brought up the difficulties in healing in low gee. Totally wish that Drummer had just saved herself. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/155 "2018-06-22T11:01:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I have not read the books, so to me it looks like Bobbie could have trouble from her fellow Marines. The books wouldn’t help you on this–the series has diverged greatly from the books. The character of Bobbie ([who is supposed to be a 2-meter tall 100 kg muscular Polynesian, BTW](http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/Bobbie_Draper_(Books))) isn’t even in the book this season is based on. The whole sequence of Holden traveling to the station and being captured by the Marines is maybe 5% similar to the sequence in the book. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/156 "2018-06-22T14:53:24Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The books wouldn’t help you on this–the series has diverged greatly from the books. I figured that might the case, but source material has a way of creeping back in… > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The character of Bobbie ([who is supposed to be a 2-meter tall 100 kg muscular Polynesian, BTW](http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/Bobbie_Draper_(Books))) isn’t even in the book this season is based on. That’s my kinda woman! I can see where casting for that role might have been difficult tho. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The whole sequence of Holden traveling to the station and being captured by the Marines is maybe 5% similar to the sequence in the book. When the series is all over I intend to give the books a whirl. Or maybe if it reaches a GoT moment where the series is actually ahead of (or beyond) the books; that would work too. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/157 "2018-06-22T15:03:37Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Or maybe if it reaches a GoT moment where the series is actually ahead of (or beyond) the books; that would work too. Don’t hold your breath on that. The TV series is reaching the end of book 3. There are 7 books so far with the 8th coming out in December and possibly an unnamed 9th in 2019. (All of the earlier books more-or-less wrap up their stories at the end, book 7 is a cliff-hanger.) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/158 "2018-06-22T16:02:04Z")
Ah, ok. I thought there were only 3 books. Important question: were any published in hardcover? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/159 "2018-06-22T16:16:11Z")
No idea–mine are all electronback. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/160 "2018-06-22T16:45:36Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Ah, ok. I thought there were only 3 books. Important question: were any published in hardcover? Looks like Amazon has every one in hardcover except the first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247.md?page=9)