# The Expanse; season 3 (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247 "2018-04-11T22:07:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/161 "2018-06-28T02:21:19Z")
I thought y’all would enjoy this VICE article: [‘The Expanse’ Is the Epic Sci-Fi Show You Need in Your Life](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bj3qd5/the-expanse-is-the-epic-sci-fi-show-you-need-in-your-life) > [@](#): > > You should thank diehard fans for saving it from the cold vacuum of cancellation, because now you can stream it on Amazon. There’s a bunch of reasons given for watching the show (the attention to detail, the cast, the awesome-ly fast moving story, the multiple storylines, etc.). It ends with this: > [@](#): > > The plot, cast, and fanatical attention to detail—the scripts are apparently color-coded to denote the gravity in the scene—has spawned a fanbase who went to great lengths to campaign for the show when it was initially canceled in May. An online petition to “Save The Expanse” gained 138,00 signatures, and one fan even flew a plane with a banner reading “Save The Expanse” over Amazon Studios. Luckily the show was picked up by Amazon, and will return for a fourth season. > > Luckier still, it’s all available for streaming now, and waiting for new converts to dive in. 😃 I think it’s a pretty good article and a very good advert. ETA: NO SPOILERS FOR TONIGHTS SHOW(S) PLEASE! I’m at a gig and can’t watch them until tomorrow night. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/162 "2018-06-28T02:54:50Z")
The scene with Anna’s friend after the sudden stop was… penetrating. The effects were spot-on, too. She was obviously crying, but her tears were seen welling in her eyes instead of running down her cheeks. They could have left the tears out altogether and probably no one would have noticed. But they clearly had an attention to detail and put in the tears. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/163 "2018-06-28T04:56:59Z")
Okay, wow. Loved the ending! It’s great that it’s been picked up for another season, but I have to say, if they’d had to end on this note, that would have been okay. One thing I loved is that, even though we had multiple factions with mutually exclusive goals, no one was really the Bad Guy. They were all trying to do right, based on the information they had at the moment. Sure, it turns out that the Big Damn Heroes were the ones with the right answer, but that doesn’t negate the sacrifices that the other guys were willing to make, based on their understanding of the situation. Really well done episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/164 "2018-06-29T07:41:30Z")
Y’all totally fucking rock! Was able to watch them both tonight and my initial reaction is: HOLY JUMPING FUCK KRINGLE ON A GODDDAMNED CRACKER!!! _Abaddon’s Gate_ was quite probably the single greatest TV episode I’ve ever seen. Fucking amazing. FAR too many moments to list them all. And an absolutely stunning final development that leaves me OH so glad that this got renewed! Thank you, Jeff Bezos & Amazon! **Horatius** , I also love that that has been a central conceit of the show since the beginning. The show, like life should be, is largely about how and why people interact: what is worth doing & why? I am just blown away by these last 2 episodes. I’ll prolly watch them again in the next couple of days just to see what I missed. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/165 "2018-06-29T12:18:02Z")
That would have been a great series ender if it hadn’t been picked up by Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/166 "2018-06-29T13:38:12Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > So (spoilers for books, speculation for series ahead) There is only the one gate visible in the Slow Zone. Do you think that they are going to wait for the station to be shut down and have the other 1300-ish suddenly appear to be more dramatic? Yep. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/167 "2018-06-30T00:59:24Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > That would have been a great series ender if it hadn’t been picked up by Amazon. Aside from the lack of Chrisjen I agree. Not just 1300 systems to explore, but 1300 systems with habitable planets! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/168 "2018-06-30T19:59:16Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Aside from the lack of Chrisjen I agree. She has been pretty absent recently, hasn’t she? And Fred Johnson…where’s he been through all of this? I guess those guys (and others) were all cut off communications-wise while the group of spaceships was trapped in there. What a great show! I am saddened that it’s going to be awhile before it comes back. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/169 "2018-07-05T00:39:44Z")
Soooo… just caught up on the 2 episode finale and I really liked it. Really. But… a.) No Chrisjen. b.) I didn’t buy Clarissa’s redemption. c.) Not going to spoil the books but… I can see they sketched out some of the high points from the books final battle on the Behemoth but this is definitely an area where the show fell short in my opinion. I realize they had time constraints of 13 episodes, a 2 episode finale, etc., but everything just seemed too… quick. It was really good but it missed the mark for me of “great”. d.) Most importantly, in my opinion they really did not sufficiently convey the underlying fear that Holden was trying (but failed in the show) to express. We’ve seen how incredibly powerful the proto-molecule is, it can convert massive amounts of mass to its purposes to build a gate. The same race who made the proto-molecule made the station and of course all the other gates to the 1300 worlds. Clearly a very advanced race with powers that dwarf humanity. The proton-molecule, the station, and the 1300 gates are “Oh. Shit.” story pieces. But then it seems they only kinda tap-danced around the fact that something else was significantly more powerful out there that was a threat. So much so that the station attempted to burn entire systems to stop it, and ultimately failed. That’s the real “OH. SHIT!” moment in the story and it was just kinda flat in the show. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/170 "2018-07-05T03:27:19Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > … But then it seems they only kinda tap-danced around the fact that something else was significantly more powerful out there that was a threat. So much so that the station attempted to burn entire systems to stop it, and ultimately failed. That’s the real “OH. SHIT!” moment in the story and it was just kinda flat in the show. I didn’t read the book but perceived it being stated with huge oh-shitness but left there, more as foreshadowing for seasons to come. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/171 "2018-07-05T10:47:02Z")
I wondered while reading the book how they were going to handle the whole “like, _woah_, man!” vision scene. I don’t think they handled it well. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/172 "2018-07-05T13:38:03Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I didn’t read the book but perceived it being stated with huge oh-shitness but left there, more as foreshadowing for seasons to come. That really seems the most likely explanation – enough of a revelation to explain the panic everyone was in, but not get bogged down in backstory. Particularly since that backstory will be easier explained when they start adapting _Cibola Burn_ – they can actually have Miller talk through the backstory, instead of just portraying it in a Holden vision-quest. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/173 "2018-10-19T20:07:48Z")
I liked the idea that you don’t have wormholes/stargates leading from every place to every other place, but rather a central depot from where you can choose your destination. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/174 "2018-10-19T21:25:52Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > b.) I didn’t buy Clarissa’s redemption. Me neither and I doubt we’re the only ones; it was poorly done (and unsatisfactory besides). ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/175 "2018-10-21T17:50:58Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > I liked the idea that you don’t have wormholes/stargates leading from every place to every other place, but rather a central depot from where you can choose your destination. Same here, assuming it’s possible that’s how a wormhole network would actually work (as opposed to the Stargate model.) Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/176 "2018-10-21T20:29:25Z")
Near as I can tell, filming was supposed to start last month for S4. I looked around online but I didn’t see anything confirming that filming started at all. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/177 "2018-10-22T15:23:17Z")
[Filming began October 1](https://theexpanselives.com/the-expanse-week-in-review-1/). Game on! ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/178 "2018-10-22T20:10:39Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Me neither and I doubt we’re the only ones; it was poorly done (and unsatisfactory besides). It felt like the producers had gotten word that Season 3 might be the end and so they wrapped up all the plot threads as briefly as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/179 "2018-10-22T20:47:45Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > [Filming began October 1](https://theexpanselives.com/the-expanse-week-in-review-1/). Game on! “Good news, everyone!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247/180 "2019-04-04T23:40:10Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Don’t hold your breath on that. The TV series is reaching the end of book 3. There are 7 books so far with the 8th coming out in December and possibly an unnamed 9th in 2019. And that 8th book was delayed from Dec 2018, but [it is out now](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiamat%27s_Wrath). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-3-open-spoilers/812247.md?page=10)