# The Expanse Season 6 episode discussion (spoilers as they air)

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**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\
**Created:** [December 10, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841 "2021-12-10T17:46:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/21 "2021-12-14T04:33:31Z")

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I caught both things in Amos as well. Compared to first season Amos, this shows character growth IMO. Good writing and good acting.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/22 "2021-12-14T09:18:58Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> I noticed that, too—in fact, I thought the CGI was off in some other places, too, such as the exploding asteroid looking really blocky.

Maybe it’s my age, but I don’t expect perfect special effects in television series. I know that they’re working with limited budgets and production times, and I’m perfectly happy with “good enough”.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/23 "2021-12-15T20:23:58Z")

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/24 "2021-12-15T20:29:00Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I caught both things in Amos as well. Compared to first season Amos, this shows character growth IMO. Good writing and good acting.

One problem with the TV shows vs. the books is that they have to brush over exactly how long they’ve been a crew together. Even with the “Epstein drive”, travel can take months, and some missions through the ring gates can take up to a year.

In book terms, by this point of the story, they’ve been together for probably close to a decade, if not more. TV show-wise, well, I guess it’s been 6 real years, but story-wise, it’s less than that. Most of the events we see on the show seem to occur over just a few weeks, at most, with just a few time-jumps between seasons or mid-season. This changes the dynamics quite a bit.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/25 "2021-12-17T21:55:37Z")

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I watched Episode 2, “Azure Dragon” last night. I guess Amazon uses GMT to define “Friday”.

**EPISODE 2 SPOILERS FOLLOW!**

Another solid episode. The raid on the Azure Dragon was exciting and well-choreographed. Too often, scenes like that can be a confusing mess of action with new problems arising continuously, but here they kept it simpler yet tension-filled throughout.

High points: there’s still a lot of tension among the Rocinante crew, but you can see it lessening it a little with this success. Continuous anger would make the characters unappealing, and immediately being best friends would feel fake. They struck the right balance.

Naomi’s stress was also well-written and well-acted. I particularly liked the moment between her and Holden. "Really all right, or all right because you’re not ready to talk about it?’ “The second one.”

Low points: I get that we need Monica Stuart as a foil for Avasarala, but does she have to be so annoying in that role? I’m also disappointed that they apparently feel the need to include the propaganda video story line in such an abbreviated season. It was a cute distraction in the book, but IMO any time spent on it here is time better used on something else. There’s a crapload to wrap up with only four episodes left.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/26 "2021-12-18T15:14:39Z")

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Solid episode, IMO.

> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Naomi’s stress was also well-written and well-acted. I particularly liked the moment between her and Holden. "Really all right, or all right because you’re not ready to talk about it?’ “The second one.”

You left out the most important line: “Alright.”

This was, for me, the single most impactful scene of the episode. The acceptance and understanding conveyed in that brief sequence was remarkable. Truly cinematic magic, IMO.

Rosenfeld is an intriguing character. She’s so composed it’s scary.

OTOH…

I do not like the little girl or her parents. I hope we’re done with them and can move onto the bigger storyline that they were (I hope) introducing us to.

Amos issuing orders to Peaches that countermanded Holden’s orders _right in front of Holden_ seemed out of character for Amos and IMO it undermines Holden’s later attempt to assert control over Peaches’ future actions.

Also, I’ve disliked the Monica Stuart character since she first appeared. Any time she is the show, I hate watching and just want the scene to be over with ASAP. Everything about the character seems contrived and unrealistic, as if she were merely a device rather than a character. I think the actress is doing a terrific job; I just hate the character.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/27 "2021-12-18T17:24:45Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I do not like the little girl or her parents. I hope we’re done with them and can move onto the bigger storyline that they were (I hope) introducing us to.

> **reply spoilered**
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> Not gonna happen. Hope it isn’t too spoilery and I don’t know how the TV series will play it, but [the little girl](https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Cara_Bisset_(Books)) (who I had forgotten about until I read the final novel a few days ago) and her littler brother are significant characters in the books.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/28 "2021-12-18T17:28:36Z")

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That was definitely spoilery and completely unnecessary.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/29 "2021-12-24T05:17:17Z")

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Ok well as I got the wrong thread  
Really enjoying the season, the rock crew tension is being well handled, ‘alright’ was a great line.

They need to get the weird alien planet story moving.

In the defunct season 6 thread I posted a link that indicated more series and a movie were in the pipeline, but I am doubting the veracity of the link, so apologies for that.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/30 "2021-12-25T07:32:11Z")

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I enjoyed E3 quite a bit.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/31 "2021-12-27T04:12:10Z")

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From the “let’s make our show more difficult to watch for some reason” department…

> **[PSA: You’ll miss 25 minutes of The Expanse’s final season if you don’t pause it](https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/24/22851119/the-expanse-season-6-final-amazon-x-ray)**
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> Stop and smell the Rocinante

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/32 "2021-12-31T11:46:38Z")

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Episode 4 seemed oddly like filler even though a fair amount happened with the characters. Only two episodes to go with a LOT to wrap up. Are they planning a movie or something?

The strange ships that appeared at the tail end of Episode 3 aren’t even referenced.

I need to remember to try the x-ray thing.

For us Americans, it appears Friday starts at GMT, so I watched it last night around 8 EST.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/33 "2021-12-31T17:41:52Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> From the “let’s make our show more difficult to watch for some reason” department…

I’ve watched the first three vignettes. As noted in the linked article, they don’t contribute to the main storylines. I wouldn’t say they reveal new facets of the characters, but more just enhance things you already knew, like Avasarala has a soft side, and Amos and Bobbie have a friendly rivalry.

The Avasarala one was mildly touching, and Amos/Bobbie was fun. The Michio/Drummer vignette might have been the most revealing, yet oddly it didn’t do anything for me.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/34 "2021-12-31T22:36:34Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Episode 4 seemed oddly like filler even though a fair amount happened with the characters. Only two episodes to go with a LOT to wrap up. Are they planning a movie or something?

They’ve done a really clumsy job of interleaving the Laconia thread and the Inaros thread, too.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/35 "2022-01-01T06:04:39Z")

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I think Amos is overstepping a lot this season. Maybe his attitude makes more sense in the books where it is more obvious that a lot of time has passed and a lot of bonding was done but here it just feels like poor writing to me. Thought it was great that Holden has the numpties to tell him to fuck off when it wouldn’t take much effort to be spaced.

Have I mentioned how much I like Drummer? The character is amazing; the portrayal is transcendent.

“Don’t ever feel bad about not killing someone.”

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/36 "2022-01-02T17:14:32Z")

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This is a great show and I will miss it. I can’t see how they will tie up all the loose ends in one more episode but I looks forward to seeing what they come up with.

Until this week I had suspected the stuff with the family on the planet was happening far in the relative future but the guy’s speech about Mars this week put the kibosh on that theory.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/37 "2022-01-03T01:47:45Z")

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Well, recall that this season only covers up to Book 6 and then Books 7, 8, 9 and left in the wind and hopefully someone picks them up.

So there will be some loose ends that just don’t get tied.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/38 "2022-01-03T02:02:45Z")

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Here’s some news:

> **['The Expanse' showrunner says door is open for more after season 6](https://ew.com/tv/the-expanse-amazon-season-6-naren-shankar/)**
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> "There's definitely more to tell," says 'Expanse' showrunner Naren Shankar about possible life after Amazon.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/39 "2022-01-03T02:21:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Here’s some news

From more than a year ago.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-expanse-season-6-episode-discussion-spoilers-as-they-air/955841/40 "2022-01-03T03:23:14Z")

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Yeah, at this point Alcon (the production company) is just hoping someone will give them the opportunity to do the last 3 books.

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