# The Extreme Right Obama Hate is Flat Out Nuts **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 16, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312 "2009-04-16T18:45:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/161 "2009-04-20T19:12:12Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > As another counterpoint to “The Left worships Obama”, there is a serious disillusion with Obama from the far Left, because he’s not doing the things they think he should be doing. I’d say that about 1/4 of Daily Kos diaries are critical of Obama, not adulatory. He’s basically taken torture prosecutions off the table, he hasn’t even attempted to make single-payer the major health care item, he’s continuing, in some cases, the Bush administration’s executive privilege actions, he blocked the ouster of Joe Lieberman from the caucus, his Treasury and Fed picks are NOT approved of, and his handling of the bailouts under those picks’ influence is not liked. > > The idea that the Left “worships Obama” is silly. And Obama has drawn serious criticism, not only from the left, but from ordinary East Coast Establishment liberals such as economist [Paul Krugman](http://www.newsweek.com/id/191393). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/162 "2009-04-20T19:19:07Z")
As for lefties critical of Obama, I think I can fairly offer myself as someone who leans leftish. On the conservative wing of the extreme left. I won’t say I’m “disappointed” with his policy choices, because I wasn’t expecting Dennis Kucinich with a tan. Obama told me who he was, and who he wasn’t, pretty much, and I picked him as being as close as I’m likely to get. But the thing is, I genuinely believe that Obama is smarter than me. (I’ve managed to forgive that, but the smokin’ hot wife and the gorgeous kids still rankle…) If we disagree, I’ve got to keep an eye on the possibility that he’s right and I’m wrong. I had no such trouble with…the previous administration. Further, I believe that he is not as stubborn as…that other guy. If I’m right, and can offer substantial proof, I can bring him around. Obama _wants_ to know, Bush thought he already _did_ know. ---
**Author:** ![focusonz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9dc877/32.png) [@focusonz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/focusonz)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/163 "2009-04-21T01:48:31Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I was pretty damned unhappy with Bush the minute he got into office You should seek your needed treatment from a doctor not the patients in this asylum! See The thread “Why can’t we all just get long… w/o hating?" [Why can't we all just get long... w/o hating? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=466580) And the threadThe Unfortunate Effect of the Negative Stereotype" [The Unfortunate Effect of the Negative Stereotype [ed. title] - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=467698) Scale 5 Extermination (hanged) Quote: Originally Posted by elucidator It isn’t merely that I disagree with the people who have buggered our country for the last eight years, it is that I despise them. I have ample reason. Jesus will forgive them, no doubt, but I’d prefer to wait until they are hanged. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/164 "2009-04-21T01:54:23Z")
**’Lucy** is a satirist. I don’t believe he really wants to see them hanged. He’s not a barbarian. I’m sure he would avert his eyes. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/165 "2009-04-21T02:22:12Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Then maybe you shouldn’t make absolute statements then. Glad to see you’re back. Still waiting on those cites as noted in post 110. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/166 "2009-04-21T03:25:01Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Still, there were some proportion of Obama voters who were overenthusiastic about him - especially in the runup to the election. Whether you would characterize them as left or far left frankly is immaterial - the fact is there was some amount of hero-worship going on. > > Agree? Surely all that memorabilia was being bought by somebody, right? For the first time in many years, we finally had a candidate who looked like a shoe-in to beat the Republicans, and who also ran a damn fine campaign despite constant attacks from the other side. It finally looked as though the Republican Reign of Terror was over. Please, forgive us for being excited. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/167 "2009-04-21T04:47:18Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > …I’m sure he would avert his eyes. Its hard not to avert your eyes involuntarily when you’re masturbating like a motherfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/168 "2009-04-21T16:02:35Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Before anyone around here goes nuts…note the word “extreme”. > > Have you seen Huffposts slideshow of yesterday’s most [offensive](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html) signs? Pretty stunning stuff. And completely disconnected from reality. And just nuts. Because that’s what nuts is: a disconnection from reality. The Huffington Post is a collecting area for nutcases. It is not a reliable source for anything. I’d be willing to bet a buck that they hunted for quite a while to find “offensive” signs, and most of what they had posted as offensive was a simple statement of fact. Yes, we have extremists on the right. There are extremists on the left as well. The lunatic fringe is alive and well on both spectrums. ---
**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/169 "2009-04-21T18:40:39Z")
Wow! There’s no irrational adulation of Obama happening according to you guys? Wow! Just…wow! In the runup to the election? Of course now that he’s messing up, that’s another matter, but prior? Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/170 "2009-04-21T18:48:59Z")
> [@Anduril](#): > > Wow! There’s no irrational adulation of Obama happening according to you guys? Wow! Just…wow! In the runup to the election? Of course now that he’s messing up, that’s another matter, but prior? Unbelievable. Adulation? Sure. Out of proportion? Perhaps. But what exactly about it made it irrational? The fact that you didn’t agree with his politics? I found that the level of undeserved adulation for Obama was microscopic compared to the orgy of praise coming from the right about Palin. But I still wouldn’t call it “irrational”. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/171 "2009-04-21T18:49:37Z")
> [@Anduril](#): > > Wow! There’s no irrational adulation of Obama happening according to you guys? Wow! Just…wow! In the runup to the election? Of course now that he’s messing up, that’s another matter, but prior? Unbelievable. **ing**. Happen **ing**. There **was**. It happen **ed**. It is not happen **ing**. Yeah, people went gaga during the election. But you continue to wield the Messiah stick like it still means something, if it ever really did. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/172 "2009-04-21T18:58:48Z")
I consider my adulation of President Boyfriend completely rational. It was based on his personal qualities, demonstrated through his words and actions. Whatever kind of president he ultimately proves to be, the man I saw and the man I voted for was, in pretty much every imaginable respect, a truly exceptional person and an amazing politician, in an entirely good way (vs. being an amazing politician by virtue of one’s ability to be successful through being underhanded and manipulative). Plus way cuter than any candidate for any office I’ve ever seen in my life. AND way cooler. And a great Dad with a bitchen wife and terrific kids. What’s not to adulate? (first time I’ve ever used that verb in my life.) And I’m pretty much still adulatin’, if not with quite the degree of fervor. Washington will drag down even the most impressive… ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/173 "2009-04-21T19:08:38Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Yes, we have extremists on the right. There are extremists on the left as well. The lunatic fringe is alive and well on both spectrums. Oh, everybody’s equal then. I had no idea. I guess the whole conversation is over. :rolleyes: (might wanna read the rest of the thread) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/174 "2009-04-21T19:59:04Z")
The point being that the sort of slavish adulation the lefties openly admit they feel for Obama corresponds exactly to the kind of attitude they condemn towards any politician not of the Left. Except on the SDMB. There is no one on the SDMB who expresses that kind of slavish adoration for Bush. No one. The rather small minority of us who have ever expressed qualified approval for Bush, or even who refuse to join the ritual abuse of him, are labelled as apologists. Often by the same group who fantasize publicly about sticking their tongues up Obama’s ass. And I am not being figurative. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/175 "2009-04-21T20:04:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Often by the same group who fantasize publicly about sticking their tongues up Obama’s ass. And I am not being figurative. Well, if they fantasize publicly, then you can produce a cite, eh? Otherwise, you can take your broad-based generalization and self-satisfy this anal fixation you clearly have. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/176 "2009-04-21T20:06:08Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The point being that the sort of slavish adulation the lefties openly admit they feel for Obama corresponds exactly to the kind of attitude they condemn towards any politician not of the Left. > > Except on the SDMB. There is no one on the SDMB who expresses that kind of slavish adoration for Bush. No one. > > The rather small minority of us who have ever expressed qualified approval for Bush, or even who refuse to join the ritual abuse of him, are labelled as apologists. Often by the same group who fantasize publicly about sticking their tongues up Obama’s ass. And I am not being figurative. > > Regards, > Shodan That’s because Bush did almost no good. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/177 "2009-04-22T04:19:14Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > That’s because Bush did almost no good. Tell that to AIDS sufferers in Africa. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/178 "2009-04-22T05:30:06Z")
And who else had the moral courage to stand firm against the dread menace of human-animal hybrid experimentation? Who, I ask, who? I ask “Why?” as well, along with “WTF?”, but “Who?” comes first! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/179 "2009-04-22T05:46:23Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Tell that to AIDS sufferers in Africa. He **did** say “almost”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312/180 "2009-04-22T05:49:59Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The point being that the sort of slavish adulation the lefties openly admit they feel for Obama corresponds exactly to the kind of attitude they condemn towards any politician not of the Left. > > Except on the SDMB. There is no one on the SDMB who expresses that kind of slavish adoration for Bush. No one. > > The rather small minority of us who have ever expressed qualified approval for Bush, or even who refuse to join the ritual abuse of him, are labelled as apologists. **Often by the same group who fantasize publicly about sticking their tongues up Obama’s ass. And I am not being figurative.** > > Regards, > Shodan I too would like to the see your cite of people here on the SDMB publicly fantasizing about sticking their tongues up Obama’s ass. You used the plural “tongues” so I’m sure you have more than one person who posted this. Cite, please, **Shodan**? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-extreme-right-obama-hate-is-flat-out-nuts/493312.md?page=10)