Damn. They’re *really *devious. Throwing people off their scent. Makes you think.
What’s the threshold number of bizarre beliefs about turkey companies that someone has to hold before it’s okay to murder them?
I haven’t asked for a debate on anything, I was asking for your take on just how this supposed plot to overthrow the US goverment was supposed to be accomplished. As for facts: what you have presented so far on this subject are assertions. That’s something quite different.
Kimstu is right: you seem to have some special definition of English grammar that is known only to you.
Sorry, but I simply can’t. In all honesty, I love Islam precisely as much as I embrace communism.
Less than the number of your laughable strawmen about it.
Nice try, you evil Muslim, but you can’t fool me! Every number’s smaller than infinity!
Ignore what the protesters themselves are actually saying???
“I’ve come here to fight for Islam. We won’t allow any bloggers to blaspheme our religion and our beloved Prophet Mohammed,” said Shahidul Islam, an imam at a mosque outside Dhaka who walked 20 kilometres.
“I’ve come here to fight for Islam. We won’t allow any bloggers to blaspheme our religion and our beloved Prophet Mohammed,” said Shahidul Islam, an imam at a mosque outside Dhaka who walked 20 kilometres.
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What does the atheist blogosphere have ANYTHING to do with the government trials of Islamists? This was clearly a protest against atheist bloggers. Their own words say so. Your delusion has gotten the better of you: 500,000 people marched to chants of “kill the bloggers.” This is cut-and-dry. And it DOES represent a significant portion of the Muslim community.
Nobody here is claiming that it doesn’t.
I don’t know why you can’t seem to understand when I and others keep telling you that we liberal anti-Islamophobes DO recognize the existence of various forms of violent oppressive radical-theocratic Islam, and we DO think they have a significant presence within global Islam, and we DO think they pose serious threats to life, liberty and human rights.
But none of that means that various forms of violent oppressive radical-theocratic Islam are the SAME THING as Islam PER SE or Muslims IN GENERAL.
Which is why your continuing to insist on referring to violent oppressive radical-theocratic Islam by just calling it “Islam” without any qualifiers makes you a dishonest malicious Islamophobic asswipe.
I really do not see how this could possibly be explained to you any more clearly. Shorter words, maybe? Let me know if it would help you to have it rephrased in shorter words.
^ Muslims as human beings must get the respect and love that every human being deserves. But as i said, everyone should be aware that Islam is a cancer. If the apologists here had seen Islam at work closer to their homes, they would agree with me. Meanwhile, 19 ismaili shia minority murdered in pak yesterday.
As per above:
No need to give it fancy names. It is Islam. Islamic terrorism is directly attributable to Islam. After all normal Muslims only get radicalised to become Islamic jihadis.the average religious intolerance levelof Muslims is much higher than in people of other religions. This is directly attributable to Islam. You can see the polls of blasphemy apostasy sharia etc if you can’t understand the languages and so you don’t know what kind of bigotry to allowed and promoted in **main stream **media
But like I keep saying, Muslims as human beings must Have the respect and love that every human being deserves.
Hindu mob attacks and drives out Muslims over legally approved construction of mosque
Clearly, Hinduism is a cancer. Those who have suffered from seeing Hinduism at work at close quarters will doubtless agree.
Just as Hindu terrorism is directly attributable to Hinduism.
The need is to give it an accurate name. When you refuse to criticize a particular violent oppressive fundamentalist movement unless you can call it by a much more generalized name, you are not being accurate.
And since there’s nothing particularly difficult or burdensome about calling a particular violent oppressive fundamentalist movement by an accurate name, then you must have some other reason for steadfastly avoiding and rejecting accurate usage. And it’s not very difficult to see what that reason is.
^if Hinduism was a cancer I would accept that happily but its not Islam.
I don’t call myself a Hindu btw
Fine. So according to your keenly analytical standards of discourse, Islam is a cancer and Hinduism is another cancer. Presumably every other religion any of whose adherents do violent oppressive things is also a cancer. Cancer-religion terrorism is directly attributable to cancer-religion. End of story.
My, that was interesting and informative. We sure understand a lot more now about the complex cultural and political interactions of religious doctrines with historical developments than we did before you proposed that profound critical exegesis.
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Yes, we know. You’ve told us before.
OK
Muslims ‘Give Most To Charity’, Ahead Of Christians, Jews And Atheists, Poll Finds
http://www.hhrd.org/hhrd-Programs.aspx
http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/
Ignore their self-aggrandizing ridiculous exaggerations. Though uncritically accepting their statements allows you to pretend that they’re representative of Muslims and Islam, which is why you take the side of the extremists.
Because, as I also told you three weeks ago, these bloggers played a prominent role in the Shabag protest movement which resulted in those trials, which is why Hefajat is targeting them.
So, last night some bikers (who, unlike Muslims, are a group thatactually killed a bunch of people in Texas recently) decided to hold a protest in front of a mosque in Arizona, holding up insulting drawings of Muhammad and wearing “Fuck Islam” t-shirts.
And do you know what Muslims at the mosque did in response? NOTHING. The president of the mosque said “Everybody has a right to be a bigot. Everybody has a right to be racist. Everybody has a right to be an idiot. They’re not looking for an intellectual discussion. They’re looking to stir up a controversy and we’re not gonna be a part of it.” And that’s exactly what they did.
Oh, and look who were among the anti-Muslim protesters in Phoenix: neo-Nazis.
How completely unexpected.
Certainly, the events in Phoenix did no one any favors.
What could have been a focus on the issue of freedom to draw Mohammad, or the production of the aspiring Pamela Geller assassins by that mosque, or that particular mosque’s ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, instead turned into a pointless volley of insults about Muslims, Arabs, and immigrants in general, with overtones of menace from people brandishing guns and no attempt to screen out Nazis and general troublemakers from the protest.
It is curious, of course, that this is taken to represent everyone who dissents from the “what if murdering people for criticizing Islam is Actually Good” progressive line, when seemingly nothing that hundreds of millions of Muslims believe or do is taken as indicating anything whatsoever about the mysterious “real Islam.” But that won’t stop me from saying that these people do not represent me and I condemn this idiotic farce of a “protest.”
The mealy-mouthed “ties” is probably the only thing saving this statement from being libel.