The Fallen Blogger and the Spectre of Secularism

In 2008, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh presented her with a “VIP” passport to Gaza

This is stupid, although predictable from you.

Hamas runs Gaza.
Booth pleads the case for the Palestinians of Gaza.
Hamas gives this independent reporter leave to travel Gaza to inquire what is going on.
Hater decides that Booth is a “propagandist” for pointing out the problems faced by the people in Gaza.

Do you have any record of her actually promoting Hamas?

What percentage of Gaza human rights activists do you imagine get VIP passports presented to them by the leader of Hamas?

Booth also has the unfortunate problem of ranting about how British Jews run the world and forgetting to mention anything about Palestine in her speeches. I guess this is part of the “we too oppose the extremists, but refuse to identify anyone as an extremist” game.

This was good for a laugh. Almost none of this is correct, and the correct parts are irrelevant to my claim and misapplied by you. And the best part is that you declare it all with such certainly and arrogance while being absolutely wrong. There’s a news story about them, so they are unquestionably a public figure. :smack:

There is a nice parallel between you being an obvious non-lawyer who has a loose grasp of defamation law and lecturing on it like you know something, and you talking about Islam and Muslims like you know something more than what Ann Coulter and Pamela Gellar have spoonfed you.

Can you provide a single example of a religious institution in the United States successfully winning a libel claim based on assertions about what their leaders are “tied to” or believe?

Can you provide a single example of any religious institution besides Scientology even filing a libel claim at all?

You are so far over your head that you don’t even know smart questions to ask as a way of distracting from how wrong you were about the prior post.

As much fun as this is, I’m starting to pity you a little bit, and that’s usually where I bow out.

I guess that’s a “no” on doing anything but sticking your fingers in your ears and declaring victory. Won’t be the last time in this thread, I imagine.

That whole link is a load of cherrypicked nonsense.

Funny how you don’t cut and paste the part about the “second memo” mentioned at your link, where the FBI also thought that NAIT supported Khomeini and his Shia government, “as well as other fanatical Islamic Shiite fundamentalist leaders in the Middle East”. And this right after the link accused NAIT of wanting to spread Wahhabism (ie, Saudi Arabian brand fundamentalist Islam).

The problem is that NAIT can’t be all those things at once. The Brotherhood and the Saudis hate each other, and each of them also hate the Shia. Only in the mind of bigoted boneheads who think one radical Muslim is just like another and that therefore anyone who’s a “radical Muslim” is in ideological communion with all the other “radical Muslims” and so are all engaged in one giant unified Evil Muslim Conspiracy is there such a thing as a Muslim Brotherhood-linked, Iranian Shiite fundamentalist-supporting, Wahhabist-promoting organization.

It’s just as facepalmingly stupid as the theory among certain lunatics on the right that Obama is a gay atheist Muslim. He can’t be all those things at the same time, and neither can NAIT be all the things that link accuses them of being at the same time.

Which was not a “these people are part of our Sekrit Muslim Conspiracy” list, but “we think these people might be on our side” list put together by one guy in Europe. Needless to say, not only was that twenty years ago, but the adeptness of the fucking morons in the Brotherhood at carrying out secret world-dominating conspiratorial plans is best highlighted by the fact that they couldn’t even manage to dominate the Muslim-majority country they were founded in!

And that link gleefully mentions the 2009 district court decision in which “[t]he designation of NAIT as an ‘unindicted co-conspirator’ was upheld in 2009 by a federal judge, though that judge ruled against the previous public disclosure of the designation”, but doesn’t see fit to talk about the subsequent 2010 Circuit Court of Appeals decision which stated,

Pretty much, yeah.

The “Muslim Brotherhood” is currently a splintered, shattered shadow of its former self, which wasn’t even close to being unified to begin with. Its only important in the minds of anti-Islam conspiracy theorists who apparently see members of the Brotherhood under their beds at night.

So I guess the real question is whether the FBI is guilty of libel :stuck_out_tongue:

Anaheim-Based Church Wins $11.9-Million Libel Judgment

I never made a claim that Booth was a calm, rational person. You posted the lie that she was a propagandist for Hamas, (as a way to avoid addressing the rest of your errors in that earlier post) and I pointed out that your claim was false (as were all the other claims).

Whoa. The stuff that search returns makes less sense than this nonsense verse.

s criticizing Islam allowed in The BBQ Pit?

Who should I blame for the following-?

The following is not exactly new news but it ain’t that old either

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

The sad story of the never ending killing of Palestinian children by the Israeli Defense Force all in the name of self-defense.

Murdering little girls is an Israeli sport it seems

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service

Thu., October 28, 2004
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP
Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765
An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfirewhile sitting at her desk at the same school.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA’s Elementary

Girl’s School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA’s
Al-Umariye Elementary Boys’ School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank

In March 2003
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and ead while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003

The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
28 July 2003
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
‘Mother, mother’. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.
She was still in my arms and she died."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0...007051,00.html

This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
Tuesday December 23, 2003
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...112055,00.html

Baby is born then dies
September 11, 2003
Birth and death at the checkpoint
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
Siege off Nablus
January, 2004
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appe…_the_siege.htm

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004

15 year old boy & Amer Kathym & Rouhi Hazem Shouman all shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appe…_the_siege.htm

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead
Tue., October 05, 2004
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport."

http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/children.html
http://tinyurl.com/8rmn2g3

.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.Islam did not carry out the acts above, so who did-?

Somethings just need repeating.,…

Do you agree, yes or no and is you care to, tell me why-?

Just asking

Those are all bad things to have happened, and they make me sad.

The Guardian and Palestinian Monitor links, and some others, don’t work, BTW.

toooldtocare, how long have you been hanging on to that post? Nothing’s newer than 2004. I find the info, er, too old to care.

Nothing newer than 2004-? I see 2014 below, care to comment-?

*Israel ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports
Sunday Feb 16, 2014
Ukrainian media have reported that a former Israeli army officer is playing a leading role in the anti-government protests in the former Soviet republic.

Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev.*

http://thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/mossad.htm

Mossad Agent was an agent of the Israeli Mossad who was seen in MTAC, witnessing an operation that Mossad Officer Ziva David had acquired intel for.

Nov 4, 2014 - The Islamic State group is the creation of Israel’s Mossad, Iran’s deputy foreign minister said Tuesday, accusing the spy agency of aiming to …

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria

Isis claims responsibility for Texas attack
No evidence Islamic State had actual hand in attack as details emerge about would-be gunmen Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi

You can always google the topic or phrases and find out for yourself. I want you to prove the articles wrong. I do not want to believe it yet here it is

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations – Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building – celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.
The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r
State Dep’t Defines Israeli Settler Violence as Terrorism

.http://tinyurl.com/8cn3cpz

Tomndebb,
If you want my posts deleted and/or me just say so & if it is within my power it will be done (:-

Cancerous Islam attacks Punjab, India (from across the border in Pak). 15 terrorists, hostage situation, 8 people dead so far, army called in.

5 bombs planted to blow up railway tracks diffused in the same area.

Two ponies, two tricks! Hooray!!