# The famous "Earth rise" photo **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 24, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249 "2013-02-24T15:33:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/41 "2013-02-25T22:38:29Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I have no idea what space clouds are supposed to be. Can someone link to a picture? I tried to link to the opening credits of Day the Earth Stopod Still on Youtube, but it ain’t there. Haven’t been able to find any of the pictures I’ve seen in the past. And, to make things worse, the links from the olld Teemings article all see,m to be defunct. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/42 "2013-02-25T22:46:48Z")
I can’t find any of the pre-1960 images I’d like to, but this recent image captures the idea. “Space clouds” are clouds that surrund the object, as ordinary clouds seem to cluster around the moon when you see it in the sky. They are thoroughly unphysical clouds that don’t wrap tightly around the planet as any good, gravity-respecting cloud ought to: [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS9J6StRPlwA6IuJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DClouds%2Bin%2BSpace%26\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DClouds%2Bin%2BSpace%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D263&w=1280&h=960&imgurl=www.free-hdwallpapers.com%2Fwallpapers%2Fspace%2F620.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.free-hdwallpapers.com%2Fwallpaper%2Fspace%2Fmoonshine%2F701&size=174.2+KB&name=MoonShine%2C+blue%2C+\clouds\<%2Fb\>%2C+sky%2C+\space\<%2Fb\>&p=Clouds+in+Space&oid=7f1b2b991b1cd69c4d7dc3bf7e369f92&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=MoonShine%252C%2Bblue%252C%2B%253Cb%253Eclouds%253C%252Fb%253E%252C%2Bsky%252C%2B%253Cb%253Espace%253C%252Fb%253E&b=241&ni=49&no=263&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11uof3qv8&sigb=141e3ntjg&sigi=11ie6pm6e&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS9J6StRPlwA6IuJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DClouds%2Bin%2BSpace%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DClouds%2Bin%2BSpace%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D263&w=1280&h=960&imgurl=www.free-hdwallpapers.com%2Fwallpapers%2Fspace%2F620.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.free-hdwallpapers.com%2Fwallpaper%2Fspace%2Fmoonshine%2F701&size=174.2+KB&name=MoonShine%2C+blue%2C+%3Cb%3Eclouds%3C%2Fb%3E%2C+sky%2C+%3Cb%3Espace%3C%2Fb%3E&p=Clouds+in+Space&oid=7f1b2b991b1cd69c4d7dc3bf7e369f92&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=MoonShine%252C%2Bblue%252C%2B%253Cb%253Eclouds%253C%252Fb%253E%252C%2Bsky%252C%2B%253Cb%253Espace%253C%252Fb%253E&b=241&ni=49&no=263&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11uof3qv8&sigb=141e3ntjg&sigi=11ie6pm6e&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/43 "2013-02-25T23:07:37Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > But ever since those pictures – made famous on magazine covers, wall posters, and the like, the standard view of earth from space now requires clouds. (Except for the Universal logo – that remains steadfastly cloud-free, for some reason) Curiously, their “100th anniversary” [version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E98iTbFqRuM#t=38s) has clouds for the close-in shots, but they disappear as the camera pulls out. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/44 "2013-02-26T00:27:49Z")
Images of cloudless earth Original from Jules Verne’s “Hector Servadac” (“Off on a Comet” [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS8R.ytRSGoAqkmJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%2Billustration%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D4&w=515&h=722&imgurl=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F6%2F62%2F%2527Off\_on\_a\_Comet%2527\_by\_Paul\_Philippoteaux\_106.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3A'Off\_on\_a\_Comet'\_by\_Paul\_Philippoteaux\_106.jpg&size=158.8+KB&name=File%3A%26%2339%3B\Off+on+a+Comet\<%2Fb\>%26%2339%3B+by+Paul+Philippoteaux+106.jpg+-+Wikimedia+...&p=Off+on+a+Comet+illustration&oid=6f60d20c06077b059537aa727587e436&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=File%253A%2526%252339%253B%253Cb%253EOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%253C%252Fb%253E%2526%252339%253B%2Bby%2BPaul%2BPhilippoteaux%2B106.jpg%2B-%2BWikimedia%2B...&b=0&ni=56&no=4&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12l70obp4&sigb=13pcmp702&sigi=12utovl21&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS8R.ytRSGoAqkmJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%2Billustration%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D4&w=515&h=722&imgurl=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F6%2F62%2F%2527Off_on_a_Comet%2527_by_Paul_Philippoteaux_106.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3A%27Off_on_a_Comet%27_by_Paul_Philippoteaux_106.jpg&size=158.8+KB&name=File%3A%26%2339%3B%3Cb%3EOff+on+a+Comet%3C%2Fb%3E%26%2339%3B+by+Paul+Philippoteaux+106.jpg+-+Wikimedia+...&p=Off+on+a+Comet+illustration&oid=6f60d20c06077b059537aa727587e436&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=File%253A%2526%252339%253B%253Cb%253EOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%253C%252Fb%253E%2526%252339%253B%2Bby%2BPaul%2BPhilippoteaux%2B106.jpg%2B-%2BWikimedia%2B...&b=0&ni=56&no=4&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12l70obp4&sigb=13pcmp702&sigi=12utovl21&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) Classics Illustrated adaptation of Off on a Comet (circa 1960) [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS8R.ytRSGoAqUmJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%2Billustration%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=600&h=855&imgurl=jv.gilead.org.il%2FCI%2F149%2Fimages%2F00.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjv.gilead.org.il%2FCI%2F149%2F&size=148.5+KB&name=Jules+Verne’s+Classics+Illustrated%3A+\Off+on+a+Comet\<%2Fb\>&p=Off+on+a+Comet+illustration&oid=fa7ecaf9b4f70cf294b24d549473c3ad&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Jules%2BVerne%25E2%2580%2599s%2BClassics%2BIllustrated%253A%2B%253Cb%253EOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=10vhc2sfc&sigb=13ptn7am2&sigi=115vtf0ia&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS8R.ytRSGoAqUmJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%2Billustration%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=600&h=855&imgurl=jv.gilead.org.il%2FCI%2F149%2Fimages%2F00.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjv.gilead.org.il%2FCI%2F149%2F&size=148.5+KB&name=Jules+Verne%E2%80%99s+Classics+Illustrated%3A+%3Cb%3EOff+on+a+Comet%3C%2Fb%3E&p=Off+on+a+Comet+illustration&oid=fa7ecaf9b4f70cf294b24d549473c3ad&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Jules%2BVerne%25E2%2580%2599s%2BClassics%2BIllustrated%253A%2B%253Cb%253EOff%2Bon%2Ba%2BComet%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=10vhc2sfc&sigb=13ptn7am2&sigi=115vtf0ia&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) Star Trek “Mirir” Original: [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS.j.ytRWiMAxLSJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D20&w=320&h=240&imgurl=www.wearysloth.com%2FTVEpGallery%2Ftve320-19661027.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aveleyman.com%2FTVEpisode.aspx%3FFilmID%3D320%26amp%3BEpisode%3D19661027&size=44.3+KB&name=Aveleyman+-+\Star+Trek\<%2Fb\>%3A+\Miri\<%2Fb\>&p=star+trek+miri&oid=fa76a6f02fd34bcf8c4561d69b3eee78&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Aveleyman%2B-%2B%253Cb%253EStar%2BTrek%253C%252Fb%253E%253A%2B%253Cb%253EMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=20&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=127f0e4gu&sigb=13d2vf3rt&sigi=11i9d03la&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS.j.ytRWiMAxLSJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D20&w=320&h=240&imgurl=www.wearysloth.com%2FTVEpGallery%2Ftve320-19661027.gif&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aveleyman.com%2FTVEpisode.aspx%3FFilmID%3D320%26amp%3BEpisode%3D19661027&size=44.3+KB&name=Aveleyman+-+%3Cb%3EStar+Trek%3C%2Fb%3E%3A+%3Cb%3EMiri%3C%2Fb%3E&p=star+trek+miri&oid=fa76a6f02fd34bcf8c4561d69b3eee78&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Aveleyman%2B-%2B%253Cb%253EStar%2BTrek%253C%252Fb%253E%253A%2B%253Cb%253EMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=20&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=127f0e4gu&sigb=13d2vf3rt&sigi=11i9d03la&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) Notice, by the way, that the “remastered” edition from a few years ago adds clouds, appropriate for post-Apollo viewers: [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS.j.ytRWiMAybSJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D25&w=1440&h=1080&imgurl=geek-life.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FMiri1.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgeek-life.com%2F2012%2F03%2F22%2Fstar-trek-for-beginners-what-are-little-girls-made-of-miri-2%2F&size=599.8+KB&name=\Miri\<%2Fb\>&p=star+trek+miri&oid=3305e1e8cb74e2dd5cc0b3c6fce2b0b0&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=25&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12tb08lel&sigb=13deckqmm&sigi=11i029qnn&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS.j.ytRWiMAybSJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D25&w=1440&h=1080&imgurl=geek-life.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FMiri1.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgeek-life.com%2F2012%2F03%2F22%2Fstar-trek-for-beginners-what-are-little-girls-made-of-miri-2%2F&size=599.8+KB&name=%3Cb%3EMiri%3C%2Fb%3E&p=star+trek+miri&oid=3305e1e8cb74e2dd5cc0b3c6fce2b0b0&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=25&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12tb08lel&sigb=13deckqmm&sigi=11i029qnn&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS0G\_CtR0gUAhmmJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D38&w=400&h=320&imgurl=lafronterafinal.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F06%2Fncc1701\_400.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Flafronterafinal.wordpress.com%2Fcategory%2Fstar-trek%2F&size=26.8+KB&name=\Star+Trek+\<%2Fb\>«+\miri\<%2Fb\>\_st&p=star+trek+miri&oid=f95190ac82d2249fdd35885ff4556780&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EStar%2BTrek%2B%253C%252Fb%253E%25C2%25AB%2B%253Cb%253Emiri%253C%252Fb%253E\_st&b=31&ni=56&no=38&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11o6726ag&sigb=13upnq2lv&sigi=11resa2f2&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS0G_CtR0gUAhmmJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D38&w=400&h=320&imgurl=lafronterafinal.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F06%2Fncc1701_400.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Flafronterafinal.wordpress.com%2Fcategory%2Fstar-trek%2F&size=26.8+KB&name=%3Cb%3EStar+Trek+%3C%2Fb%3E%C2%AB+%3Cb%3Emiri%3C%2Fb%3E_st&p=star+trek+miri&oid=f95190ac82d2249fdd35885ff4556780&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EStar%2BTrek%2B%253C%252Fb%253E%25C2%25AB%2B%253Cb%253Emiri%253C%252Fb%253E_st&b=31&ni=56&no=38&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11o6726ag&sigb=13upnq2lv&sigi=11resa2f2&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS0i\_CtRjmgAVguJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D51&w=320&h=240&imgurl=www.startrek.com%2Flegacy\_media%2Fimages%2F200609%2Ftos-012-enterprise-earth%2F320x240.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.startrek.com%2Fdatabase\_article%2Fmiri-episode&size=22.5+KB&name=\Star+Trek+Miri\<%2Fb\>&p=star+trek+miri&oid=0e0c24586676fa1bcb48d9b24b003501&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EStar%2BTrek%2BMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=31&ni=56&no=51&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11lang7cg&sigb=13uag30ss&sigi=12gavu1vi&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS0i_CtRjmgAVguJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D51&w=320&h=240&imgurl=www.startrek.com%2Flegacy_media%2Fimages%2F200609%2Ftos-012-enterprise-earth%2F320x240.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.startrek.com%2Fdatabase_article%2Fmiri-episode&size=22.5+KB&name=%3Cb%3EStar+Trek+Miri%3C%2Fb%3E&p=star+trek+miri&oid=0e0c24586676fa1bcb48d9b24b003501&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EStar%2BTrek%2BMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=31&ni=56&no=51&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11lang7cg&sigb=13uag30ss&sigi=12gavu1vi&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) [quoyte]■The sphere model used for Miri’s homeworld has the same geographical configuration of its continents as modern Earth, only without any clouds. Recycled footage of the Enterprise orbiting “Earth” can be seen in “Tomorrow is Yesterday” and “Assignment: Earth”. In the former episode, clouds were added in post-production, although in some instances, the original “cloudless” model can be seen. In the latter, they simply reused the footage from “Miri” without any clouds. The same Earth globe was also used in “Shore Leave” and “Arena”, printed backwards and with exotic color tints added. [/quote] > **[Miri (episode)](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Miri_(episode))** > > The Enterprise discovers an Earth-like planet that was devastated by a horrific degenerative disease and is now populated entirely by impossibly old children. Responding to a Earth-like recording over a hundred light years from Earth, the USS... **the Invisible Ray** (1936) Go to 14:24 (not to mention the Universal Logo at the beginning): [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMLi2TCPxrI) **This Island Earth** [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoVyB\_ytR3XwA2sWJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D32&w=449&h=330&imgurl=monsterminions.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F01%2Fthis-island-earth.jpg%3Fw%3D450%26amp%3Bh%3D330&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmonsterminions.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2Fclassic-cartoons%2F&size=48.9+KB&name=\This+Island+Earth\<%2Fb\>&p=this+island+earth&oid=1fca8005aa276e379a6f911ccf34cde1&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EThis%2BIsland%2BEarth%253C%252Fb%253E&b=31&ni=49&no=32&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11pbvsqpq&sigb=144u1n3qp&sigi=12gp6h4pi&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoVyB_ytR3XwA2sWJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D32&w=449&h=330&imgurl=monsterminions.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F01%2Fthis-island-earth.jpg%3Fw%3D450%26amp%3Bh%3D330&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmonsterminions.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2Fclassic-cartoons%2F&size=48.9+KB&name=%3Cb%3EThis+Island+Earth%3C%2Fb%3E&p=this+island+earth&oid=1fca8005aa276e379a6f911ccf34cde1&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EThis%2BIsland%2BEarth%253C%252Fb%253E&b=31&ni=49&no=32&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11pbvsqpq&sigb=144u1n3qp&sigi=12gp6h4pi&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoVyx\_ytRoHQAID.JzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D47&w=1024&h=789&imgurl=warchild13.com%2Fimages%2F2008%2F11%2Fthis\_island\_earth\_(1955)\_v4.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwarchild13.com%2F2008%2F11%2Fif\_i\_had\_to\_liv.html&size=88.8+KB&name=\this\<%2Fb\>\_\island\<%2Fb\>\_\earth\<%2Fb\>\_(1955)\_v4.jpg&p=this+island+earth&oid=d1d57fae2a3ba65fb23514886c446c6f&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253Ethis%253C%252Fb%253E\_%253Cb%253Eisland%253C%252Fb%253E\_%253Cb%253Eearth%253C%252Fb%253E\_%25281955%2529\_v4.jpg&b=31&ni=49&no=47&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11it9084o&sigb=1445rtau2&sigi=11tf6akd7&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoVyx_ytRoHQAID.JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D47&w=1024&h=789&imgurl=warchild13.com%2Fimages%2F2008%2F11%2Fthis_island_earth_%281955%29_v4.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwarchild13.com%2F2008%2F11%2Fif_i_had_to_liv.html&size=88.8+KB&name=%3Cb%3Ethis%3C%2Fb%3E_%3Cb%3Eisland%3C%2Fb%3E_%3Cb%3Eearth%3C%2Fb%3E_%281955%29_v4.jpg&p=this+island+earth&oid=d1d57fae2a3ba65fb23514886c446c6f&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253Ethis%253C%252Fb%253E_%253Cb%253Eisland%253C%252Fb%253E_%253Cb%253Eearth%253C%252Fb%253E_%25281955%2529_v4.jpg&b=31&ni=49&no=47&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11it9084o&sigb=1445rtau2&sigi=11tf6akd7&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) **conquest of Space** actually gave us a few clouds, but nowhere near enough. (It was a sorta sequel to **destination Moon** , both made by George Pal, and both had Chesley Bonestell as an advisor. DM _DID_ show a properly cloudy Earth): [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS7l\_ytRTwQAKwKJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dconquest%2Bof%2Bspace%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D7&w=640&h=427&imgurl=farm3.staticflickr.com%2F2304%2F2073486525\_778f17bef4\_z.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Ftom-margie%2F2073486525%2F&size=132.8+KB&name=Crew+shuttle&p=conquest+of+space&oid=ab282e5d6aed8ad78ff6cea77ccfa083&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Crew%2Bshuttle&b=0&ni=49&no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11j5cafgf&sigb=13fb771om&sigi=11s20eu9p&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS7l_ytRTwQAKwKJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dconquest%2Bof%2Bspace%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D7&w=640&h=427&imgurl=farm3.staticflickr.com%2F2304%2F2073486525_778f17bef4_z.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Ftom-margie%2F2073486525%2F&size=132.8+KB&name=Crew+shuttle&p=conquest+of+space&oid=ab282e5d6aed8ad78ff6cea77ccfa083&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Crew%2Bshuttle&b=0&ni=49&no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11j5cafgf&sigb=13fb771om&sigi=11s20eu9p&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/45 "2013-02-26T00:36:40Z")
**The Day the Earth Stood Still**. There are superimposed “space clouds” throughout the opening credits, but especially note them from 1:15-1:25 over the otherwise cloudless earth: [http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;\_ylt=A2KLqIEwAixRPCcAPdr7w8QF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p=“Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still”+Youtube&vid=c3cd268e212181cdcedf8021c300ea5c&l=1%3A47&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4548388468883697%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZoDkAJYqT58&tit=The+Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still+(1951)+-+Re-created+Main+Titles+in+...&c=12&sigr=11at2ctad&&tt=b](http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIEwAixRPCcAPdr7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p=%22Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still%22+Youtube&vid=c3cd268e212181cdcedf8021c300ea5c&l=1%3A47&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4548388468883697%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZoDkAJYqT58&tit=The+Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still+%281951%29+-+Re-created+Main+Titles+in+...&c=12&sigr=11at2ctad&&tt=b) The colorized opening credits actually remove the original shots of approaching a cloudless earth (with “space clouds”) with a shot of the “Earthrise” image, because the original looks wrong to modern eyes (see especially at 1:27): [http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;\_ylt=A2KLqIEwAixRPCcAPdr7w8QF;\_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p="Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still"+Youtube&vid=c3cd268e212181cdcedf8021c300ea5c&l=1%3A47&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4548388468883697%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZoDkAJYqT58&tit=The+Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still+(1951)+-+Re-created+Main+Titles+in+...&c=12&sigr=11at2ctad&&tt=b](http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIEwAixRPCcAPdr7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p=%22Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still%22+Youtube&vid=c3cd268e212181cdcedf8021c300ea5c&l=1%3A47&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4548388468883697%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZoDkAJYqT58&tit=The+Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still+%281951%29+-+Re-created+Main+Titles+in+...&c=12&sigr=11at2ctad&&tt=b) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/46 "2013-02-26T01:39:17Z")
And I realize that this is supposed to be a globe, not a depiction of the actual earth, but it’s the closest thing I can find on the Internet to the “Clouds in Space” imagery that I’ve seen in lots of old books. It starts at 1:08 and goes to 1:25 at the very beginning of **Casablanca** : [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_raVGf87g) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/47 "2013-02-26T02:00:41Z")
Psst, **Cal** , you gave the same link for both versions of the DtESS opening. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/48 "2013-02-26T12:23:32Z")
Odd – I copied two different ones; the original and a colorized one, which were distinctly different. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/49 "2013-12-24T14:48:23Z")
Here’s a _Time_ article on the story behind the iconic “Earthrise” image (which I like so much I have it on my cellphone, although I just realized in mine, the Moon is slightly lower on the horizon): [Earthrise on Christmas Eve: The Iconic Picture Turns 45 | TIME.com](http://science.time.com/2013/12/24/earthrise-on-christmas-eve-the-picture-that-changed-the-world/) ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/50 "2013-12-24T15:13:06Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > It’s a fake, like all the other spaceflight and lunar-landing photos. NASA was soooo stupid\* that in their massively funded hoax, they forgot to put stars in the pictures! > > - _for those of a certain age and disposition: “How stupid WERE they!?”_ Of cos it’s fake! :smack: Doh! Since the Earth is actually FLAT! For crying out loud - The Evidence is all around us! > **[Modern flat Earth beliefs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society)** > > Pseudoscientific beliefs in a flat Earth are promoted by a number of organizations and individuals. The claims of modern flat Earth proponents are not based on scientific knowledge and are contrary to over two millennia of scientific consensus based on multiple confirming lines of evidence that Earth is roughly spherical. Flat Earth beliefs are classified by experts in philosophy and physics as a form of science denial. > Flat Earth groups of the modern era date from the middle of the 20th cen... ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/51 "2013-12-24T15:19:01Z")
I’ve looked at this thread from both sides now, and all I get is the Apple logo. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/52 "2013-12-24T16:14:34Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > [Earthrise on Christmas Eve: The Iconic Picture Turns 45 | TIME.com](http://science.time.com/2013/12/24/earthrise-on-christmas-eve-the-picture-that-changed-the-world/) Thanks for that link to the video. I didn’t think Lovell would have had to switch film rather than camera backs, it being a Hasselblad, and it’s very unlikely he could have in the time he had to do it. The camera had to have had at least two backs. In looking for more information I found [**this site**](http://www.fdtimes.com/2010/11/25/earthrise-story-behind-our-december-cover/) that quotes the Apollo 8 press kit: > [@](#): > > “Apollo 8 film stowage is as follows: 3 magazines of Panatomic-X intermediate speed black and white for total 600 frames; 2 magazines SO-368 (ASA 64) Ektachrome color reversal for total 352 frames; 1 magazine SO-121 Ektachrome special daylight color reversal for total 160 frames; and 1 magazine 2485 high-speed black and white (ASA 6,000, push to 16,000) for dim-light photography, total 120 frames. Motion picture film: 9 130-foot magazines SO-368 for total 1170 feet, and 2 magazines SO-168 high speed interior color for total 260 feet.” Hardly a frame to spare. So he switched camera backs — the film magazines. > [@](#): > > Lovell : C-368. > > C-368 refers to film type SO-368, Ektachrome ASA 64 color transparency film. Lovell has found magazine B whose images will eventually get the prefix “AS08-14.” > > \ > > Lovell : Well, I got it right…Oh, that’s a beautiful shot. 250 at f/11. @ 64 ASA (ISO). Damn it was bright. Which, one more time, explains why the film couldn’t record the stars. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/53 "2013-12-24T16:23:24Z")
^Pretty damned close to the exposure I expected, just 1/3 of a stop off my estimate. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/54 "2013-12-24T16:35:07Z")
And the reason for this is no surprise. One basic exposure rule in photography is the “sunny 16” rule. The ballpark exposure for a sunny day is 1/ISO of your film at f/16. Since the earth is being lit up by a “full sun” light source, the rule would generally apply. So, you get 1/64 of a second at f/16 or 1/125 of a second at f/11. Since you don’t have as much atmosphere filtering the light, it looks like you can shave off a stop and get the 1/250 of a second that the photo was taken at. That’s how I came up with my initial estimate of 1/60-1/125 at ISO 100 at f/16. The equivalent at ISO 64 at f/11 would be a range of 1/80-1/200 at ISO 64 at f/11, so using the “rule of thumb” was off by a smidge (although it would have been bang-on for negative film.) ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/55 "2013-12-24T16:55:47Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > It’s a fake, like all the other spaceflight and lunar-landing photos. NASA was soooo stupid\* that in their massively funded hoax, they forgot to put stars in the pictures! I heard that when Hollywood was making the “Apollo 13” movie, they faked _the entire soundstage_ and just sent the actors to the moon. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/56 "2013-12-24T17:34:37Z")
… ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/57 "2013-12-24T17:45:56Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > ^Pretty damned close to the exposure I expected, just 1/3 of a stop off my estimate. 🙂 Dunno what happened above. The type boxes in this thread go blank with Firefox. I had to change to Safari — again. As I was about to say, I should have mentioned your correct-exposure deduction. I was tangled up with search-engine pages, source pages, this page and two browsers. Of course if it were me, I’d have taken it at 125th @ ƒ16 to get everything _beyond_ infinity in focus. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/58 "2013-12-24T17:47:37Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > I heard that when Hollywood was making the “Apollo 13” movie, they faked _the entire soundstage_ and just sent the actors to the moon. 🙂 > [@Kenm](#): > > … Ah, I see now. I was about to start a how’d-he-do-dat thread in ATMB. So now I’ll ask you: Why’d you do dat? ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/59 "2013-12-24T18:14:11Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > 🙂 > Ah, I see now. I was about to start a how’d-he-do-dat thread in ATMB. > > So now I’ll ask you: > Why’d you do dat? On rare occasions with Firefox the type box in a thread goes blank after I click the Preview Post button, though the type appears in the previewed post above the blank type box. When I click on Submit Reply, a warning appears telling me I haven’t typed enough and must add to the post. But this time, rather than copy the previewed post, start Safari, find the thread, log in again and make the post, as I had higher up in this thread, I reasoned that since I can see the previewed post, albeit with the type box empty, all I had to do was add a couple of periods. So I added two periods and changed their colour to white, so they wouldn’t appear in the post, and clicked on Submit Reply. Well, that didn’t work. I immediately tried to get back into the post by clicking on the Edit button, but the type box showed up empty again. By the time I figured out that I could have typed nm and changed the type colour to black (if that would have worked), the edit window had closed. I think it happens because I have tons cubed of ad blockers and anti-tracking extensions in Firefox and one or more reacts to something on the page. Except for Adblock, I keep Safari clean. Posted with Safari. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249/60 "2013-12-24T18:16:35Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > 🙂 > > > [@Kenm](#): > > > > … > > Ah, I see now. I was about to start a how’d-he-do-dat thread in ATMB. > > So now I’ll ask you: > Why’d you do dat? The two dots in **Kenm** ’s post should be clearly visible. Their absence proves that the straight dope is a hoax. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-famous-earth-rise-photo/651249.md?page=4)