I tried to link to the opening credits of Day the Earth Stopod Still on Youtube, but it ain’t there. Haven’t been able to find any of the pictures I’ve seen in the past. And, to make things worse, the links from the olld Teemings article all see,m to be defunct.
I can’t find any of the pre-1960 images I’d like to, but this recent image captures the idea. “Space clouds” are clouds that surrund the object, as ordinary clouds seem to cluster around the moon when you see it in the sky. They are thoroughly unphysical clouds that don’t wrap tightly around the planet as any good, gravity-respecting cloud ought to:
Curiously, their “100th anniversary” version has clouds for the close-in shots, but they disappear as the camera pulls out.
Images of cloudless earth
Original from Jules Verne’s “Hector Servadac” (“Off on a Comet”
Classics Illustrated adaptation of Off on a Comet (circa 1960)
Notice, by the way, that the “remastered” edition from a few years ago adds clouds, appropriate for post-Apollo viewers:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS.j.ytRWiMAybSJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bmiri%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D25&w=1440&h=1080&imgurl=geek-life.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FMiri1.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgeek-life.com%2F2012%2F03%2F22%2Fstar-trek-for-beginners-what-are-little-girls-made-of-miri-2%2F&size=599.8+KB&name=<b>Miri<%2Fb>&p=star+trek+miri&oid=3305e1e8cb74e2dd5cc0b3c6fce2b0b0&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%253Cb%253EMiri%253C%252Fb%253E&b=0&ni=56&no=25&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12tb08lel&sigb=13deckqmm&sigi=11i029qnn&.crumb=VYaThYRTQwq
[quoyte]■The sphere model used for Miri’s homeworld has the same geographical configuration of its continents as modern Earth, only without any clouds. Recycled footage of the Enterprise orbiting “Earth” can be seen in “Tomorrow is Yesterday” and “Assignment: Earth”. In the former episode, clouds were added in post-production, although in some instances, the original “cloudless” model can be seen. In the latter, they simply reused the footage from “Miri” without any clouds. The same Earth globe was also used in “Shore Leave” and “Arena”, printed backwards and with exotic color tints added.
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the Invisible Ray (1936) Go to 14:24 (not to mention the Universal Logo at the beginning):
This Island Earth
conquest of Space actually gave us a few clouds, but nowhere near enough. (It was a sorta sequel to destination Moon, both made by George Pal, and both had Chesley Bonestell as an advisor. DM DID show a properly cloudy Earth):
The Day the Earth Stood Still. There are superimposed “space clouds” throughout the opening credits, but especially note them from 1:15-1:25 over the otherwise cloudless earth:
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIEwAixRPCcAPdr7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p=“Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still”+Youtube&vid=c3cd268e212181cdcedf8021c300ea5c&l=1%3A47&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.4548388468883697%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZoDkAJYqT58&tit=The+Day+the+Earth+Stood+Still+(1951)+-+Re-created+Main+Titles+in+...&c=12&sigr=11at2ctad&&tt=b
The colorized opening credits actually remove the original shots of approaching a cloudless earth (with “space clouds”) with a shot of the “Earthrise” image, because the original looks wrong to modern eyes (see especially at 1:27):
And I realize that this is supposed to be a globe, not a depiction of the actual earth, but it’s the closest thing I can find on the Internet to the “Clouds in Space” imagery that I’ve seen in lots of old books. It starts at 1:08 and goes to 1:25 at the very beginning of Casablanca:
Psst, Cal, you gave the same link for both versions of the DtESS opening.
Odd – I copied two different ones; the original and a colorized one, which were distinctly different.
Here’s a Time article on the story behind the iconic “Earthrise” image (which I like so much I have it on my cellphone, although I just realized in mine, the Moon is slightly lower on the horizon): Earthrise on Christmas Eve: The Iconic Picture Turns 45 | TIME.com
Of cos it’s fake! :smack: Doh!
Since the Earth is actually FLAT! For crying out loud - The Evidence is all around us!
I’ve looked at this thread from both sides now, and all I get is the Apple logo.
Thanks for that link to the video.
I didn’t think Lovell would have had to switch film rather than camera backs, it being a Hasselblad, and it’s very unlikely he could have in the time he had to do it. The camera had to have had at least two backs.
In looking for more information I found this site that quotes the Apollo 8 press kit:
So he switched camera backs — the film magazines.
@ 64 ASA (ISO). Damn it was bright. Which, one more time, explains why the film couldn’t record the stars.
^Pretty damned close to the exposure I expected, just 1/3 of a stop off my estimate. 
And the reason for this is no surprise. One basic exposure rule in photography is the “sunny 16” rule. The ballpark exposure for a sunny day is 1/ISO of your film at f/16. Since the earth is being lit up by a “full sun” light source, the rule would generally apply. So, you get 1/64 of a second at f/16 or 1/125 of a second at f/11. Since you don’t have as much atmosphere filtering the light, it looks like you can shave off a stop and get the 1/250 of a second that the photo was taken at. That’s how I came up with my initial estimate of 1/60-1/125 at ISO 100 at f/16. The equivalent at ISO 64 at f/11 would be a range of 1/80-1/200 at ISO 64 at f/11, so using the “rule of thumb” was off by a smidge (although it would have been bang-on for negative film.)
I heard that when Hollywood was making the “Apollo 13” movie, they faked the entire soundstage and just sent the actors to the moon.
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Dunno what happened above. The type boxes in this thread go blank with Firefox. I had to change to Safari — again.
As I was about to say,
I should have mentioned your correct-exposure deduction. I was tangled up with search-engine pages, source pages, this page and two browsers.
Of course if it were me, I’d have taken it at 125th @ ƒ16 to get everything beyond infinity in focus.
Ah, I see now. I was about to start a how’d-he-do-dat thread in ATMB.
So now I’ll ask you:
Why’d you do dat?
On rare occasions with Firefox the type box in a thread goes blank after I click the Preview Post button, though the type appears in the previewed post above the blank type box.
When I click on Submit Reply, a warning appears telling me I haven’t typed enough and must add to the post.
But this time, rather than copy the previewed post, start Safari, find the thread, log in again and make the post, as I had higher up in this thread, I reasoned that since I can see the previewed post, albeit with the type box empty, all I had to do was add a couple of periods.
So I added two periods and changed their colour to white, so they wouldn’t appear in the post, and clicked on Submit Reply.
Well, that didn’t work. I immediately tried to get back into the post by clicking on the Edit button, but the type box showed up empty again. By the time I figured out that I could have typed nm and changed the type colour to black (if that would have worked), the edit window had closed.
I think it happens because I have tons cubed of ad blockers and anti-tracking extensions in Firefox and one or more reacts to something on the page. Except for Adblock, I keep Safari clean.
Posted with Safari.
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The two dots in Kenm’s post should be clearly visible. Their absence proves that the straight dope is a hoax.