# The Fantastic Four: First Steps - pre-release discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 4, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874 "2025-02-04T16:00:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/141 "2025-06-07T01:10:48Z")
But you haven’t had one of these for years. > **[The Fantastic Four: First Steps Galactus LED Popcorn Bucket](https://amctheatresshop.com/products/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-galactus-361oz-popcorn-container-with-led)** > > The limited edition exclusive The Fantastic Four: First Steps Galactus LED Popcorn Bucket is a MASSIVE collectible, glowing bright with cosmic LED eyes! Featuring Galactus in epic detail, it's perfect for Marvel fans. Light up movie nights and devour... ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/142 "2025-06-07T01:19:43Z")
I own a Galactus, Devourer of Beers bottle opener [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDT0vw2Xwqmuj8BvV4V32RM8_VExK1cVLIgg&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDT0vw2Xwqmuj8BvV4V32RM8_VExK1cVLIgg&s) ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/143 "2025-06-07T01:24:30Z")
Is it in your mansion or on your yacht? ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/144 "2025-06-07T01:25:36Z")
80 bucks!? Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/145 "2025-06-07T01:28:04Z")
Mansion. I got one of these for the yacht… [![](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcTC0vCwVeWiUBalOrzr_r67CbA_TWfy9zucrX6GihrhAytU9G8fb0rRjT-6pRojc5dqunZOLm8ccMtYDbreicRtHb9Fw0GF0o9wE2GxtZNczpQsfyEsYJpC) ](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcTC0vCwVeWiUBalOrzr_r67CbA_TWfy9zucrX6GihrhAytU9G8fb0rRjT-6pRojc5dqunZOLm8ccMtYDbreicRtHb9Fw0GF0o9wE2GxtZNczpQsfyEsYJpC) ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/146 "2025-06-07T01:35:46Z")
I hired that guy once, terrible employee. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/147 "2025-06-07T19:06:29Z")
I’ve got the same bottle opener! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/148 "2025-06-07T19:16:00Z")
Diamond Select Toys sells them for $29.99. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/149 "2025-06-11T01:42:45Z")
WANT! WANT NOW! Yes, that is correct, spellcheck! ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/150 "2025-06-13T00:02:38Z")
As long as we are talking Galactus, I’ll just put this here. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tK_dSnNuUMg/hqdefault.jpg "The Tick : S02 E02 - Alone Together") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_dSnNuUMg) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/151 "2025-06-25T21:31:32Z")
New Trailer. Looks like Reed’s stretchy powers are taking a lesson from Spider-Man. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/18QQWa5MEcs/maxresdefault.jpg "The Fantastic Four: First Steps | Final Trailer | Only in Theaters July 25") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18QQWa5MEcs) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/152 "2025-06-25T22:21:00Z")
I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. I want it to be good. _::: sigh ::::_ Things I do like so far: not going too crazy with the stretchy powers - Reed Richard’s superpower is as much his brain/genius as his stretchiness Sue Storm is called Invisible _Woman_ (not girl) Ben Grimm has a normal voice, not some weird super-gravely or weirdly deep voice. Some of that is kind of nitpicky, but meh - until I actually see it there’s not much more I can say. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/153 "2025-06-26T01:42:14Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Ben Grimm has a normal voice, not some weird super-gravely or weirdly deep voice. The voice is fine. As I’ve seen pointed out, he just has a rocky exterior, and normal vocal cords and lungs. There’s no reason he should sound like some inhuman monster. I don’t like his delivery though. He was always written as a very blue collar guy with a distinctive way of speaking, and that doesn’t seem present at all in this character. He doesn’t seem to have Ben’s personality, which is a massive miss to me. He just sounds like a bored emo guy, at least in this preview. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/154 "2025-06-26T01:58:39Z")
Ben Grimm was certainly written as a guy with “blue collar” speech patterns, but folks forget he was also a smart, highly educated guy. That’s why he was hanging out with a geek like Reed. Grimm’s fictional biography had him will a full scholarship to college (albeit, and athletic one), earning an engineering degree and becoming a test pilot/rocket pilot/astronaut. He’s a smart dude in his own right. I really don’t like portrayals of him as less than that. We’ll see how he winds up in the movie when it comes out. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/155 "2025-06-26T02:09:13Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Ben Grimm was certainly written as a guy with “blue collar” speech patterns, but folks forget he was also a smart, highly educated guy. And that particular blue collar speech pattern doesn’t exist anymore. Sure you could have him try to talk in an oldtimey Manhattan accent. It is a different universe after all. But I don’t see how it wouldn’t sound fake to modern ears. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/156 "2025-06-26T02:11:36Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > And that particular blue collar speech pattern doesn’t exist anymore. Sure you could have him try to talk in an oldtimey Manhattan accent. It is a different universe after all. But I don’t see how it wouldn’t sound fake to modern ears. On the other hand, the film appears to be supposed to be set in a version of the 1960s – which would make the classic Ben Grimm working-class New Yorker accent and dialect appropriate. On the gripping hand, it’s 2025, and as you note, the viewers aren’t in the 1960s. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/157 "2025-06-26T04:07:51Z")
Everybody knows Ben Grimm speaks just like Jack Kirby. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/27g3uVUMqW8/hqdefault.jpg "Stan Lee and the Voices of Marvel - for members of "The Merry Marvel Marching Society"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27g3uVUMqW8) ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/158 "2025-06-26T10:40:28Z")
The final trailer is making me come around on the way they are handling Reed. We saw more of his performance in this one and I am liking what I saw. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/159 "2025-06-26T12:42:21Z")
My thoughts on the final trailer: “This looks terrible. However, it could be great for all I know.” My wife said, “The Thing still looks stupid.” Maybe I’m just burned from the previous F4 movies, but I always think they look so silly and lame. I still think the Roger Corman produced one is the best of the current batch we have. Also, was Invisible Woman kind of doing a Jean Grey type thing there? I thought her bonus power was making shields in front of herself, not manipulating objects. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874/160 "2025-06-26T13:03:30Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Also, was Invisible Woman kind of doing a Jean Grey type thing there? I thought her bonus power was making shields in front of herself, not manipulating objects. She can change the shape and size of the invisible forcefields, which gets pretty close. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pre-release-discussion/1013874.md?page=9)