# The Fantastic Four; is anyone gonna see this turd?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 7, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422 "2005-07-07T06:01:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/81 "2005-07-07T22:03:00Z")

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> [@Master Control](#):
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> having Alba do nude scenes, in his opinion, would have been overkill

Faster, Jessica, kill, kill!

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/82 "2005-07-07T22:05:42Z")

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> [@Dr. Rieux](#):
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> […]as bad a comic book movie as \*Hulk \* or (shudder) _Spawn_.

That’s because _nothing_, absolutely _ **nothing** _, could be as bad a comic book movie as Spawn.

In fact, I think it’s right up there in the running with _Manos_ for “worst movie ever.”

I dunno. There are a couple of closeups of the Thing suit in the trailer, and I fell back in my seat and groaned at how awful he looked.

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**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/83 "2005-07-07T22:22:11Z")

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Looks to be one of the more badly cast movies of all time. I can’t resist (when it comes out on DVD, anyway).

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**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/84 "2005-07-07T22:41:57Z")

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For the record, Gymkata remains the worstbestworst movie ever. I recommend it for one and all.

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**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/85 "2005-07-07T22:56:03Z")

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Having seen the original (a POV shot from the POV of a blind woman? Lighting a set with a nightlight? SURE!) this one can’t be worse. If nothing else, this one had a catering budget greater than the money Roger Corman had to work with.

And hey, it can’t be worse than Dolph Lundgren’s Punisher. Or that awful Captain America movie. Or Superman IV.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/86 "2005-07-07T23:09:04Z")

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> [@SisterCoyote](#):
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> That’s because _nothing_, absolutely _ **nothing** _, could be as bad a comic book movie as Spawn.

[Oh, you’re so young…](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072419/)

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/87 "2005-07-07T23:23:10Z")

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> [@SisterCoyote](#):
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> That’s because _nothing_, absolutely _ **nothing** _, could be as bad a comic book movie as Spawn.

I see your _Spawn_ and raise you one _Howard the Duck_.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/88 "2005-07-08T00:07:50Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> I see your _Spawn_ and raise you one _Howard the Duck_.

Has anyone here seen the Garfield movie and care to comment? (Hey, it’s a comic, it was in some books, it’s a comic book movie 😉 )

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/89 "2005-07-08T00:37:14Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> Has anyone here seen the Garfield movie and care to comment? (Hey, it’s a comic, it was in some books, it’s a comic book movie 😉 )

I went to see _Garfield_ because my four-year-old insisted on seeing it. :rolleyes:

40 minutes into the movie, he wanted to leave because “it’s boring.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/90 "2005-07-08T00:52:33Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> [Oh, you’re so young…](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072419/)

I’m not so young, and Spawn is still the worst comic book movie, and I’ve seen [Captain America](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103923/) and the Dolph Lundgren [Punisher](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098141/). It had a happy ending for christ sake!!! Spawn has never had a happy ending!!!

What was this thread about again? Oh yeah. I’m not going to see it. I’ve just never liked the comic. The reviews aren’t helping either.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/91 "2005-07-08T01:46:33Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> Lessee… cosmic wave, cosmic powers… you can call me _The Cosby_. Now excuse me as I go do a little dance and wipe out the rest of the dads in the weekly ratings.

Just make sure you don’t get your ass kicked by Homer Simpson.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/92 "2005-07-08T02:00:59Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> I’m guessing the claim to “longest running” is based on _Fantastic Four_ being published under that name in 1961 and continuing without a hiatus or title change until 2003, which is pretty remarkable.

What happened in 2003? ☹

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/93 "2005-07-08T02:02:22Z")

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rjung, a four-year-old has the attention span of a fruit fly. There’s a reason Sesame Street and Barney break their shows up into tiny skits rather than a single, continued plot. If he could last forty minutes, that says GOOD for the movie.

My nine-year-old, seven-year-old and six-year-old loved the Garfield movie.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/94 "2005-07-08T02:18:30Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> **GuanoLad** , do you really think “Mister Fantastic” sounds dumber than “Mister Incredible”? Yet “The Incredibles” was an awesome movie.

Ah, but _The Incredibles_ had a surreal style to it, anchoring it in a comic-book stylised look which allowed for some silly things to be more acceptable. If _Fantastic Four_ had gone for that same approach it might have worked better, but it also would’ve been a step backward in the legitimization of comic-book movies that’s being attempted elsewhere.

See, _X-Men_ works if you call yourselves cool things like Wolverine or Rogue. But it wouldn’t work if they’re called Captain Dogboy and Wonderkid.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/95 "2005-07-08T02:22:02Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> Have you got a current issue of _Action Comics_ or _Detective Comics?_

This month’s are 828 and 808, respectively.

Checking the math, that checks out for them having continuous runs since their inception.

Neither has starred Superman or Batman exclusively for the whole of their runs, but both have been around consistantly for more than 60 years.

FF might be the longest running strictly superhero book, or the longest run of a single character/team in a single title, or Marvel’s single longest running title, but Action and Detective have it beat for longest running comic book title. I don’t think Superman and Batman (the titles) have had uninterrupted runs, and I know for sure none of their other titles have.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/96 "2005-07-08T02:27:10Z")

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Ooh…and I’m pretty sure a few of the Archie titles have been running continuously since the 40s, at least. Pep comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/97 "2005-07-08T02:41:33Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> What happened in 2003? ☹

I got confused there, because “Volume 4” ended in 2003, and it looped back to “Volume 1,” although they’re still cranking 'em out. 😕

Well, I’ll be buggered, **Tengu**.

Although _Action Comics_ went on hiatus a couple of times (the first time in '86,) _Detective Comics_ has been published continuously. At any rate, you’re right, they both easily beat out _Fantastic Four_ as “longest running.”

I never would have guessed – both titles scream “1930s” to me.

I’ll never be a comic book guy, I guess. 😃

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/98 "2005-07-08T02:44:47Z")

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Will they do battle with the likes of the misunderstood mole men?..if so then I’m in. 😛

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/99 "2005-07-08T02:50:00Z")

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Hmm…didn’t know about Action’s breaks. Wonder if I ran the math wrong, or if they ran multiple issues in a month often enough to catch up to what they should be at…

_plans to look into that when he has less on his plate_

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-is-anyone-gonna-see-this-turd/311422/100 "2005-07-08T02:56:51Z")

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_Action_ was weekly for a while.

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