# The Fantastic Four movie didn't suck \[open spoilage\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 16, 2005, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229 "2005-08-16T06:30:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229/21 "2005-08-17T18:52:46Z")
Fortunately, there’s probably no need to bring back Dr. Doom for a sequel. So now the question is, who’s the FF’s number two villian? I wonder if they’d consider doing the Galactus story? I heard they might be doing a Silver Surfer movie sometime down the road, it’d be cool to introduce him in an FF movie first. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229/22 "2005-08-22T07:15:27Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > That’s nothing. In 1957 you couldn’t say “pants” on TV. > Thought there were numerous way it could be improved, the FF movie was okay; not as good as either X-Men or Spider-Man movie, but comparable to the Hulk film and miles above the Dolph Lungdren Punisher flick. > > Not exactly a ringing endorsement, to be sure, but it was fun to see Stan again. Miles above the Lungdren _Punisher_ flick? Hell, it was miles above the _2004_ version. And, I have to agree that it was a perfectly serviceable origin story. If the _X-Men_ franchise is any indication (FTR, I was pleased, but not thrilled w/ the first in that series as well), a sequal for _Fantastic Four_ could be quite good. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229/23 "2005-08-22T18:33:14Z")
You know, whenever people talk about _good_ super hero movies, they always use Spiderman as an example. Why? I thought they were perfectly watchable, in the same way the Batman movies were perfectly watchable, but I don’t get why they’re considered so gosh darn good. I’d much rather re-watch FF than a Spiderman movie, particularly the first one, which was incredibly boring until almost the end. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229/24 "2005-08-22T20:35:06Z")
I don’t know anything about the Fantastic Four, but I really thought the movie was terrible. Perhaps because I didn’t have any affection or knowledge of the characters to fall back on. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229/25 "2005-08-23T00:10:58Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > You know, whenever people talk about _good_ super hero movies, they always use Spiderman as an example. Why? I thought they were perfectly watchable, in the same way the Batman movies were perfectly watchable, but I don’t get why they’re considered so gosh darn good. > > I’d much rather re-watch FF than a Spiderman movie, particularly the first one, which was incredibly boring until almost the end. IMHO, Tobey Maguire nailed the look and, for the most part, the feel of being Peter Parker or, in other words, an awkward loser high school geek. IMHO, that’s a bigger part of the _Spider-Man_ mythos than the superhero-in-tights aspect. BUT, as far as that aspect goes, I think Raimi also nailed the _look_ of _Spider-Man_, particularly WRT the web-swinging. Seen on the big screen, it was one of the most exhilirating things I’ve ever watched, akin, almost, to watching something like _Winged Migration_ or something involving flying on an IMAX screen. Raimi also shot several other things right, not the least of which being the shot where the Green Goblin flies in toward the celebration (I forget exactly what it was), starting off as a smokey speck way, way off, and coming closer, and closer… But, yeah, as far as I’m concerned, _Spider-Man_ is “so gosh darn good” because, for the most part, it did a good job on the character development of its protagonist, much better than any comic book movie prior to (and, depending who you talk to, including) _Batman Begins_. Back that up with solid directing and not-terrible CGI, and you’ve got a winner. \ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fantastic-four-movie-didnt-suck-open-spoilage/317229.md?page=1)