# The father of one of my sixth graders is sleeping with her classmate **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 10, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234 "2020-03-10T23:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/1 "2020-03-10T23:38:55Z")
According to her homework assignment where they had to use the word “convince” in a sentence. > [@Taiwanese girl learning English](#): > > I convinced my father to sleep with my classmate. OK, revised vocabulary for the next lesson: [ul]let me[/ul] [ul] have a sleepover[/ul]It did wake me up, though. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/2 "2020-03-11T00:00:14Z")
_gulp_ ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/3 "2020-03-11T00:35:13Z")
> [@VOW](#): > > _gulp_ Yeah, funny mistakes kids make. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/4 "2020-03-11T02:04:52Z")
Ha! A bit like American girls who visit Mexico and tell people “Estoy caliente” (“I’m horny now”) or “Soy caliente” (“I’m always horny”), when they mean to say “Tengo calor” (I’m [feeling] hot”). ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/5 "2020-03-11T03:22:45Z")
In most American classrooms, at that point the teacher would have to report to child welfare authorities or risk facing criminal charges themselves. Are things more laid back where you are? ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/6 "2020-03-11T03:46:55Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > In most American classrooms, at that point the teacher would have to report to child welfare authorities or risk facing criminal charges themselves. Are things more laid back where you are? 😕 Even obvious mistakes in a foreign language? A number of kids made similar mistakes such as “I convinced my mother to do homework later.” Many, if not most of the kids at this level struggle with the construction “let me” and none of them would have known “sleepover.” When people are just learning a foreign language, these things happen. Fortunately, there is reasonability here. It’s obvious what the student meant. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/7 "2020-03-11T06:23:12Z")
Actually, it strikes me as more likely that she _persuaded_ her father to sleep with one of her classmates. Or, if you want to get SUPER nitpicky, she _persuaded_ her classmate to _permit_ her father to sleep with her.\* Either way, _convincing_ is getting someone to accept an assertion as factual. Getting someone to undertake an action is _persuading_. \*ETA: unless it was a boy classmate, in which case she persuaded HIM to let her father sleep with HIM. ETA (again): I think she should get a “B.” ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/8 "2020-03-11T10:00:30Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > 😕 Even obvious mistakes in a foreign language? A number of kids made similar mistakes such as “I convinced my mother to do homework later.” > > Many, if not most of the kids at this level struggle with the construction “let me” and none of them would have known “sleepover.” When people are just learning a foreign language, these things happen. > > Fortunately, there is reasonability here. It’s obvious what the student meant. Unfortunately we live in the era of Zero Tolerance. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/9 "2020-03-11T13:27:14Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > “Soy caliente” (“I’m always horny”) How does “always” get in there? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/10 "2020-03-11T13:36:24Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > How does “always” get in there? I was contrasting two verbs that are both translated as “I am,” but one (estoy) is used for temporary states, while the other (soy) is for permanent conditions. (I’m skipping over some subtleties, but that’s the basic idea). They both mean “I am,” but I provided both sentences, for completeness (I’ve heard both out of the mouths of gringas), and inserted the extra words to show why there are two possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/11 "2020-03-11T14:41:51Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Ha! A bit like American girls who visit Mexico and tell people “Estoy caliente” (“I’m horny now”) or “Soy caliente” (“I’m always horny”), when they mean to say “Tengo calor” (I’m [feeling] hot”). Really? Wow, I’d be likely to make that mistake too, apparently. Is that a colloquialism? Because I always thought caliente meant hot (literally). ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/12 "2020-03-11T15:09:45Z")
I hear enough spoken Spanish to know that “calor” is used to mean hot, as in “its really hot outside”. But although I’ve wondered why no one every used “caliente” in that context, I never asked. Now I’m really glad I didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/13 "2020-03-11T15:22:14Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > Really? Wow, I’d be likely to make that mistake too, apparently. Is that a colloquialism? Because I always thought caliente meant hot (literally). It does mean that, but if a _person_ says they _feel_ heat (in English, “I’m hot”), they say “I have heat.” Similarly, if you were born in 2000, in English you ARE twenty, but in Spanish you HAVE twenty years. Not colloquialisms; just standard Spanish. (“Estoy caliente” specifically meaning “I’m horny” is probably not universal, though; in some places, I think, it’s just meaningless). ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/14 "2020-03-11T15:32:59Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I hear enough spoken Spanish to know that “calor” is used to mean hot, as in “its really hot outside”. Right. Again, “calor” is the noun (“heat”). “It’s really hot” is “Hay mucho calor,” literally “There is a lot of heat.” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/15 "2020-03-11T16:51:16Z")
Alternatively, you could say “Hace mucho calor” (“It’s making/doing a lot of heat.”) But never “Es/está caliente,” unless you are describing some hot object. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/16 "2020-03-11T19:40:18Z")
Fellow student in my German class in college on a chilly day: “Ich bin kalt!” German professor: “Es tut mir Leid. Dein armer Mann.” (“I’m sorry. Your poor husband.”) That was the day we all learned that “I am cold” is “Mir ist kalt.” “Ich bin kalt” is “I am frigid.” ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/17 "2020-03-11T19:52:12Z")
Along the U.S./Mexico border, people do a lot of fudging. A lot of times, you can take an English word, add “-ado” or “-ada”, and come up with the Spanish equivalent. But . . . “Embarazada” does not mean “embarassed”. It means “pregnant”. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/18 "2020-03-11T21:46:14Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Ha! A bit like American girls who visit Mexico and tell people “Estoy caliente” (“I’m horny now”) or “Soy caliente” (“I’m always horny”), when they mean to say “Tengo calor” (I’m [feeling] hot”). How often does that really happen? I mean, girls trying to say “I’m [feeling] hot”? I can’t even imagine it gals in the U.S. talking to someone and saying “I’m feeling hot.” ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/19 "2020-03-11T22:00:01Z")
Reminds me of one of the most maddening things I’d seen in Taiwanese education: A student correctly wrote, _“I am a police officer”_ (as part of an English assignment.) The teacher marked him as “wrong” with red ink and instead corrected, _“I am a police.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234/20 "2020-03-11T22:04:19Z")
When I was teaching refugee students and the head teacher asked students for examples of unhealthy foods, one student wrote, “Sugar, candy, and 500 hamburgers.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-father-of-one-of-my-sixth-graders-is-sleeping-with-her-classmate/849234.md?page=2)