# The Feud: Sci-Fi by Intergalactic Gladiator \[Game Over\]
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [July 4, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476 "2010-07-04T02:01:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/81 "2010-07-09T19:13:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> A couple of photon torpedos down the ventilation hatch and it’s all over.
You need a PROTON torpedo to destroy the Death Star. Photon torpedoes won’t do a damn thing - the port is fully ray shielded after all.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/82 "2010-07-09T19:36:43Z")
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> Size matters, especially in a fight where you’re blowing chunks of spaceship all over creation - all things being equal, bet on the larger guy.
We saw that the Death Star can be blown up by an x-fighter. For that matter, we saw Alderaan get blown up by the Death Star.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/83 "2010-07-09T19:57:38Z")
Alderaan wasn’t shooting back. And the design flaw that allowed the Rebel scum, er, Alliance to blow up DS1 was fixed for future models.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/84 "2010-07-09T20:36:35Z")
And that design flaw wasn’t relevant for the Enterprise, anyway. You need a ship that’s small enough to get through the shields to even reach that exhaust port.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/85 "2010-07-10T01:58:08Z")
I still say Death Stars are overrated. The Enterprise survived for years under field conditions including numerous battles. The Death Stars both were destroyed the first time they were attacked.
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/86 "2010-07-11T12:59:42Z")
While Enterprises have long and sucessful careers, no Death Star has ever survived a major engagement. What more needs to be said?
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### Author:  [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/87 "2010-07-11T13:32:26Z")
> [@Alessan](#):
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> While Enterprises have long and sucessful careers, no Death Star has ever survived a major engagement. What more needs to be said?
that’s because they wait too long to use their big gun. One zap from the DS’s main weapon would destroy a fleet of Federation ships
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/88 "2010-07-11T16:44:23Z")
Well, obviously you have to factor in crew quality. A space station is only as good as the people manning it.
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/89 "2010-07-12T16:03:32Z")
The DS main weapon only points one direction. It would be easy to avoid. The enterprises scanners would see that.
The DS other weapons are lasers. No problem for the Enterprises Shields.
The Enterprise has transporters. Beam aboard and, destroy the main computer and the DS dies.
Enterprise has gone up against planet killers and won.
Enterprise in an one hour episode. (not even a two parter)
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-sci-fi-by-intergalactic-gladiator-game-over/545476/90 "2010-07-12T18:30:59Z")
Fah. The only way the Enterprise can stand up against the DS and its swarm of 7k TIE fighters is to launch Genesis device after Genesis device… and even then, that might not matter.
It’s like in _Star Wars_ - why wait to destroy the moon? Why not destroy the planet the moon is orbiting, thereby destroying the moon? Same thing: Why wait to shoot at the Enterprise when you can shoot at a planet and put the Enterprise into immediate “OMG, we’re fucked!” mode?
Also, people forget: The Death Star had shields too!
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