# The Feud: The new NFL season grows closer! by Little Nemo \[Game Over\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 2, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878 "2010-08-02T12:50:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/61 "2010-08-03T00:39:54Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Not sure why I didn’t think of Sweetness or Ditka, but for some reason the name that jumped immediately to mind for the Bears was Gale Sayers. I think I just read his name in a thread a couple days ago so he’s stuck in my head. Oh well.
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> Also, this is a faulty card if that matters:
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > 1. Warner
> > 2. Ditka
> > 3. Jim Brown
> > 4. Jimmy Johnson
> > 5. Lombardi
> > 6. P. Manning
> > 7. E. Manning
> > 8. Lawrence Taylor
> > 9. Montana
> > 10. Theismann
> 
> Two Giants, no Steelers.

What are Steelers, common thieves?

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/62 "2010-08-03T01:26:30Z")

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I think we only have 37 so far. Lotsa chatter.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/63 "2010-08-03T01:54:42Z")

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Wow, I didn’t even bother. No clue.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/64 "2010-08-03T01:57:18Z")

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I wonder, if not for Peyton, if Unitas would have been the obvious choice for the Colts or maybe we’re all too young for that. He’s actually who I thought of first, and I’m glad that AuntiePam put him down.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/65 "2010-08-03T01:59:02Z")

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After Lombardi, my first thought was Bart Starr for the Pack. Oddly, I didn’t even think Favre. Starr was well before my time.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/66 "2010-08-03T02:35:06Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> After Lombardi, my first thought was Bart Starr for the Pack. Oddly, I didn’t even think Favre. Starr was well before my time.

That’s ‘cause Favre is a stinkin’ Viking now!!!

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/67 "2010-08-03T02:43:31Z")

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1. Kurt Warner
2. Jim McMahon
3. Jim Brown
4. Roger Staubach
5. Bret Favre
6. Peyton Manning
7. Eli Manning
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Jerry Rice
10. Jim Zorn

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/68 "2010-08-03T03:07:10Z")

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I suspected that Jim Brown would be the Feud Conch. But Ditka should be. Just because he is Ditka.

Cowboys should be the anti-conch. so many famous names in that organization.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/69 "2010-08-03T03:13:59Z")

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1. Kurt Warner
2. Mike Ditka
3. Jim Brown
4. Jerry Jones
5. Brett Favre
6. Peyton Manning
7. Lawrence Taylor
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Joe Montana
10. Dan Snyder

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/70 "2010-08-03T04:00:28Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> 1. Kurt Warner
> 2. Mike Ditka
> 3. Otto Brown
> 4. Tom Landry
> 5. Vince Lombardi
> 6. Peyton Manning
> 7. Tiki Barber
> 8. Terry Bradshaw
> 9. Joe Montana
> 10. Joe Gibbs

Damn, I meant to say Paul Brown. No idea where I got Otto Brown from. Wouldn’t make a difference though, as I miss the conch either way.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/71 "2010-08-03T06:01:29Z")

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1. Kurt Warner
2. Walter Payton
3. Jim Brown
4. Troy Aikman
5. Brett Favre
6. Peyton Manning
7. Lawrence Taylor
8. Terry Bradshaw
9. Joe Montana
10. John Riggins

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/72 "2010-08-03T18:50:27Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
>
> Not sure why I didn’t think of Sweetness or Ditka, but for some reason the name that jumped immediately to mind for the Bears was Gale Sayers. I think I just read his name in a thread a couple days ago so he’s stuck in my head. Oh well.
> 
> Also, this is a faulty card if that matters:
> 
> > [@gonzomax](#):
> >
> > 1. Warner
> > 2. Ditka
> > 3. Jim Brown
> > 4. Jimmy Johnson
> > 5. Lombardi
> > 6. P. Manning
> > 7. E. Manning
> > 8. Lawrence Taylor
> > 9. Montana
> > 10. Theismann
> 
> Two Giants, no Steelers.

There are no faulty cards. If the majority gave Taylor as the most common answer, the people who said him would get the most points, even if he never saw Giants stadium in his life. It is not about" correct answers". It is about matches and matches only.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/73 "2010-08-03T19:33:42Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Damn, I meant to say Paul Brown. No idea where I got Otto Brown from. Wouldn’t make a difference though, as I miss the conch either way.

You probably mixed and matched Otto Graham’s name (Cleveland QB, late 40s to 50s, still holds the record for all-time winning % among NFL QB’s (57-13-1, .810) and Paul Brown’s.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/74 "2010-08-04T00:23:28Z")

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Am I too late?

1. Pat Tillman
2. Walter Peyton
3. Jim Brown
4. Tom Landry
5. Brett Favre
6. Peyton Manning
7. Lawrence Taylor
8. Terry Bradshaw
9. Joe Montana
10. Joe Theisman

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/75 "2010-08-04T00:27:00Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](#):
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> Am I too late?

No, you’re only #41.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/76 "2010-08-04T00:36:17Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> There are no faulty cards. If the majority gave Taylor as the most common answer, the people who said him would get the most points, even if he never saw Giants stadium in his life. It is not about" correct answers". It is about matches and matches only.

Note that I wrote “if it matters” because it’s quite possible it doesn’t. But I notice you wrote here “Giants Stadium” as if you put in Lawrence Taylor as a response for the Giants. You did not. You wrote Lawrence Taylor as a response for the Steelers. You should have said “Three Rivers Stadium.”

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/77 "2010-08-04T01:15:09Z")

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1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Mike Ditka
3. Jim brown
4. Tom Landry
5. Vince Lombardi
6. Peyton Manning
7. Lawrence Taylor
8. Jerome Bettis
9. Joe Montana
10. Joe Gibbs

edit: dag i really missed the boat on the kurt warner train, huh?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/78 "2010-08-04T02:23:41Z")

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I think a great 11th question to this feud should have been:

1. **Little Nemo** , I can’t believe you left off the…  
My answer would have been: the Miami Dolphins

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/79 "2010-08-04T02:37:09Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> > [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> > Damn, I meant to say Paul Brown. No idea where I got Otto Brown from. Wouldn’t make a difference though, as I miss the conch either way.
> 
> You probably mixed and matched Otto Graham’s name (Cleveland QB, late 40s to 50s, still holds the record for all-time winning % among NFL QB’s (57-13-1, .810) and Paul Brown’s.

I think you’re right.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-feud-the-new-nfl-season-grows-closer-by-little-nemo-game-over/548878/80 "2010-08-04T03:57:44Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I think a great 11th question to this feud should have been:
> 
> 1. **Little Nemo** , I can’t believe you left off the…  
> My answer would have been: the Miami Dolphins

Basically, I picked the Bears and the Cardinals because they are the two still active founding teams of the NFL. The remaining spots I filled in with the teams that had the most championships.

If people want and Dolores Reborn agrees we could do two more feuds to cover more teams. Then we can argue about which two don’t make the cut.

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