# The final presidential debate: 10/22/12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 22, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497 "2012-10-22T06:57:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/241 "2012-10-23T01:47:26Z")

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I missed it, what made the crowd go “oh!” a second ago?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/242 "2012-10-23T01:48:11Z")

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Based on Obama’s answer regarding support for Israel, I trust we won’t hear any more about how soft he is on that issue. Right? Right?

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/243 "2012-10-23T01:49:04Z")

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I keep hearing more about how Romney agrees with Obama.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/244 "2012-10-23T01:49:07Z")

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You know, if Israel is our greatest friend in the region, that’s kinda mean to Turkey, what with Turkey actually being in NATO and all.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/245 "2012-10-23T01:49:29Z")

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15 minutes late, but I loved when Romney freed Poland. Again!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/246 "2012-10-23T01:49:33Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> I missed it, what made the crowd go “oh!” a second ago?

If you mean a few minutes ago (at about 9:40 ET), Romney criticized Obama’s Navy for having fewer ships than our navy in 1917, and Obama came back with “Well our military also has fewer horses and bayonets too” and followed up with quips about how our Navy now has ships that airplanes land on and that go underwater.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/247 "2012-10-23T01:50:00Z")

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Genocide in citation or genocide incitation? Way to go, Mitt–call their diplomats scum. That’ll bring 'em to the table and open to listening!

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**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/248 "2012-10-23T01:50:02Z")

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"Ships carrying Iranian oil can’t come into our ports. I imagine the EEU would support this "

Uhhh, quite the imagination there, Mittster.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/249 "2012-10-23T01:50:09Z")

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Wait a minute! Republicans don’t believe in things like the ICC! I call shenanigans!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/250 "2012-10-23T01:50:17Z")

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“His words amount to incitement to genocide”? Is that even a thing?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/251 "2012-10-23T01:50:25Z")

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Thank goodness for this play-by-play thread. If I were watching this with no outlet, my head would surely explode.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/252 "2012-10-23T01:50:53Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> We have ships that go underwater called nuclear submarines.

Well, we always had ships that went underwater. These come back up.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/253 "2012-10-23T01:50:56Z")

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Of course Romney has enough foreign policy experience to understand _that_. Right, Governor. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/254 "2012-10-23T01:51:00Z")

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Thats why he wants the navy! Keep their ships from our ports! ( Somewhere someone in Romney’s campaign is saying, "Dammit! I TOLD you not to play ‘Battleship’ as his ‘in flight movie’…!)

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/255 "2012-10-23T01:51:27Z")

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I had to pause the DVR so that I could laugh at the horses and bayonets line, and it just kept going - “they’re called aircraft carriers and they can have planes land on them.” Holy shit - that was a fist to the taint!

“We’ve visited the website a lot, and it still doesn’t add up.”

Also, when Mitt wanted more time to go back to the military question, Obama says “He should have answered that question before.”

Obama is on fire.

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**Author:** ![C6541](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@C6541](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C6541)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/256 "2012-10-23T01:51:44Z")

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How exactly is Romney going to indict the President of Iran?

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**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/257 "2012-10-23T01:51:46Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> “His words amount to incitement to genocide”? Is that even a thing?

It would be a hell of a band name.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/258 "2012-10-23T01:51:47Z")

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> [@C6541](#):
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> Massachusets number one schools? Well shit it’s a liberal state and has some money, it’s not like he went to a very poor state and made them number one

I would guess that at the time of Romney’s governorship, the top states for education were Iowa, the Dakotas, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

ACT and SAT scores from those states would be at or near the high. Same for percentage of students graduating from high school.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/259 "2012-10-23T01:52:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, we always had ships that went underwater. These come back up.

😃

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/260 "2012-10-23T01:52:23Z")

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Romney is making a rousing, effective case for Obama’s foreign policy.

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