# The final presidential debate: 10/22/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 22, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497 "2012-10-22T06:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/401 "2012-10-23T02:28:37Z")
Romney met an unemployed person. Drink… ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/402 "2012-10-23T02:28:37Z")
Is our military asking for this $2 trillion extra in spending? \*sorry, that was a snark…Obama has made that point 4 times tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/403 "2012-10-23T02:28:40Z")
“I’ve met some of those people.” What does he want? A cookie? ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/404 "2012-10-23T02:28:53Z")
More violins. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/405 "2012-10-23T02:29:02Z")
Grasping for Middle America anecdotes. Oh, Mitt… ---
**Author:** ![Feyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Feyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feyrat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/406 "2012-10-23T02:29:37Z")
Mitt was SO red-faced and sweaty for most of this. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/407 "2012-10-23T02:29:40Z")
Oh, stop with the individual stories. Boring and pointless-anecdotes aren’t evidence. Mitt loves teachers. Feds don’t want to hire teachers. Oh, no fair-Obama can’t rebut? Oh, wait–ok then. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/408 "2012-10-23T02:29:46Z")
Romney: I like teachers. Yeah, about as much as you like Big Bird, eh? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/409 "2012-10-23T02:29:50Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Does Obama think bankruptcy means going out of business? It is if there are no private sector loans and the gummint doesn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/410 "2012-10-23T02:29:51Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Hmm…[I think Romney is right about his comments on Detroit](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=1). > > Is there any way that Obama didn’t get this one wrong? Nope- Obama was right. [Here](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=0), Romney said: > [@](#): > > But don’t ask Washington to give shareholders and bondholders a free pass — they bet on management and they lost. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/411 "2012-10-23T02:29:59Z")
“Don’t let the government push us into our schools.” Careful, you might learn something… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/412 "2012-10-23T02:30:04Z")
But does the Good Governor love teachers as much as he loves trees? I THINK NOT! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/413 "2012-10-23T02:30:23Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Does Obama think bankruptcy means going out of business? In the case of GM, it does mean going out of business, because there was no one with enough credit to finance restructuring. The only thing to do would be dismantle it and sell off the assets. Yes, bankruptcy means going out of business. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/414 "2012-10-23T02:30:40Z")
Obama had a zinger for his closing argument. 😃 Too many ads, Romney. YES! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/415 "2012-10-23T02:30:57Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Hmm…[I think Romney is right about his comments on Detroit](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=1). > > Is there any way that Obama didn’t get this one wrong? Here are the first two graphs: > [@](#): > > IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed. > > Without that bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check. How is that arguing FOR the bailout? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/416 "2012-10-23T02:31:01Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Romney: I like teachers. Yeah, about as much as you like Big Bird, eh? With a nice Chianti & Fava beans… ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/417 "2012-10-23T02:31:11Z")
Oh, god, END ALREADY. I have found my debate saturation point. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/418 "2012-10-23T02:31:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Romney met an unemployed person. Drink… Hey, well, technically Romney’s between jobs himself, isn’t he? He knows their pain. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/419 "2012-10-23T02:31:36Z")
WOW! I just Googled “I think we all love teachers” and that quote comes up already! ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/420 "2012-10-23T02:32:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Hmm…[I think Romney is right about his comments on Detroit](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=1). > > Is there any way that Obama didn’t get this one wrong? [No](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/1017/Presidential-debate-101-Did-Mitt-Romney-want-Detroit-to-go-bankrupt). > [@Christian Science Monitor](#): > > “Many independent analysts have concluded that taking the approach recommended by Romney would not have worked in 2008, simply because the credit markets were so frozen that a bankruptcy was not a viable option at the time,” writes Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler in his own analysis of the situation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497.md?page=22)